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#102499 - 05/09/03 09:21 AM Re: double dactyls
Jackie Offline

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paulb!!!!!! [throwing my arms around you and planting a big one e] Who can care about Daniel and Du Pre? You're back, you're back, you're back!!!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!


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#102500 - 05/09/03 09:30 AM Re: double dactyls
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Registered: 02/11/03
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Loc: Oregon, USA

Plinkety Plunkety
Sergei Rachmaninoff:
Russian composer
Deserving of praise;

He, cosmopolitan,
Twentieth-century;
Yet a "Romantic" in
Form and in phrase.


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#102501 - 05/09/03 10:02 AM Re: double dactyls
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Dear tsuwm: Your first line reminded me of something I read a very long time ago. A woman woke up in the middle of the night feeling she had discovered a very profound tr;uth, and wrote it down. In the morning, she discovered that she had written:
"Hogamus, Higamus, Men Are Polygamous
Higamus, Hogamus, Women Monogamous"




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#102502 - 05/09/03 02:17 PM Re: double dactyls
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[Musical prodigy] [or some Argentinian doggerel]

Whaddaya know! An audience participation double dactyl!


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#102503 - 05/09/03 02:54 PM Re: double dactyls
websafe Offline
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Registered: 05/08/03
Posts: 48
(First, a note to etaoin: OK, a hair/hare pun! I was slow on the uptake!)

Hey-nonny-nunnery,
Emily Dickinson
Hid, with her oeuvre, from the
Harsh light of day.
Nowadays, we'd call it
Agoraphobia,
Social anxiety --
"Shy" is passe.


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#102504 - 05/09/03 03:05 PM Re: double dactyls
tsuwm Offline
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w'afe.. ask Faldage about proper scanning--I'm afraid I can't help you.
; )


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#102505 - 05/09/03 03:29 PM Re: double dactyls
websafe Offline
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Registered: 05/08/03
Posts: 48
Dear tsuwm:
Please specify where I departed from proper scanning vis-a-vis the following rules, which you posted:

1. a dactyl is three syllables, with the stress on the first,; see no. 4.
2. Two stanzas, each comprising three lines of dactylic dimeter followed by a line with a dactyl and a single accent..
3. The first line of the first stanza is repetitive nonsense. (e.g., Jiggery Pokery, Higgledy Piggledy, etc.)
4. so it goes
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DEE

DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
NONconfronTAtional
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DEE


Thanks!


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#102506 - 05/09/03 03:39 PM Re: double dactyls
Faldage Offline
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I was willing to let it go, it being fairly minor, but, this is how I see it:

Hey-nonny-nunnery,
OK
Emily Dickinson
OK
Hid, with her oeuvre, from the
Dah duh duh DAH d' duh duh
Harsh light of day.
OK

Nowadays, we'd call it
DAH duh duh duh DAH duh
Agoraphobia,
OK
Social anxiety --
OK
"Shy" is passe.
OK

I'd say the departures are relatively minor and the first one might depend on how one pronounces oeuvre, OOV or OOV 'r (that'd be a gargled French r). The second one could pass if the intent is to stress that *We'd call it whatever (as opposed to someone else calling it whatever) rather than we'd call it agoraphobia rather than calling it something else.

On second thoughts:

Nowadays, we'd call it
DAH duh duh duh dah duh

That call is just a secondary stress.

But as I said this is all so minor I wouldn't have said anything except tsuwm invoked my name. I think he's mad at me because I agreed with him about the suspect etymology of sneeze.

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#102507 - 05/09/03 03:48 PM Re: double dactyls
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plugging into the formula we have:

1..
2..
3.HID, with her OEUVRE, from the
4.HARSH light of DAY.

5.NOWadays, WE'D call it
6.AgoraPHObia,
7.SOcial anXIety --
8."SHY" is pasSE.

as I said, I'm no expert on scanning but line 5 would seem to want "NOWadays we'd CALL it"

maybe it would work as something like this
THESE days we'd NAME it as

also, I have difficulty saying 'oeuvre' as one sylLAble..


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#102508 - 05/09/03 03:56 PM Re: double dactyls
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Or, if you don't use Nowadays you could say:
Nowdays we'd SAY it was


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