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#102307 - 05/01/03 04:15 PM legitim
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I think this is an error. Thee are Latin adverbs ending in -tim, but "legitim" is not one.
That would be "legitime". I can remember "statim", 'seriatim", "verbatim".
How many others can you remember?


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#102308 - 05/01/03 05:56 PM Post deleted by Wordwind
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#102309 - 05/01/03 06:09 PM Re: legitim
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Dear WW: naughty of you to use some that are obviously not Latin. I'm suspicious of
"shittim", and I'm almosted convinced ";uniapishtime" is from legend of Gilgamesh. Sotta
go look that up.
Scpre one for me. TaDa!


2. Newsday.com - The Legend of Gilgamesh
... immortality. He finally meets a wise man, Unapishtim, who directs him to a plant at the bottom of the sea that
bestows eternal life. ...


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#102310 - 05/01/03 06:30 PM Re: legitim
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Lots of Hebrew words end in " -im" Shittim is one.
"feminine of a derivative (only in the plural shittiym
{shit-teem'}; meaning the sticks of wood) from the
same as 'shotet' (7850); the acacia (from its scourging
thorns):--shittah, shittim. See also 'Beyth hash-Shittah'
(1029
Reminds me of ancient joke about cowboy and Indian going to hotel. Next morning room service
found cowboy on 'the best seat in the house", with an arrow through his heart. The Indian
confessed. "Me do it. Tribal law. He shittim in spring."


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#102311 - 05/01/03 06:46 PM Re: legitim
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Your doctor has ordered the drug filgrastim to help treat your illness. The drug
will be infused ...


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#102312 - 05/01/03 06:50 PM Re: legitim
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. lactim tautomers in 2(1 H )-pyridone catalysis of aromatic nucleophilic substitution Anne Loppinet-Serani, Florence
Charbonnier,* Christian Rolando and Ivan ...
www.iecb-polytechnique.u-bordeaux.fr/publis/1998/jcspt21998937.pdf view as html | more results from this site


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#102313 - 05/01/03 06:52 PM Re: legitim
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. Drug description Sargramostim is used to treat non-Hodgkinís
lymphomas and acute leukemia. ...


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#102314 - 05/01/03 08:01 PM Post deleted by Wordwind
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#102315 - 05/02/03 09:09 AM Re: unciatim
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unciatim = ounce by ounce.


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#102316 - 05/02/03 09:53 AM Post deleted by Bingley
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#102318 - 05/02/03 10:20 AM Re: legitim
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If you're going to include Hebrew words

Far be it from me to point out that the original question was looking for:

Latin adverbs ending in -tim

or to point out that adverbs are not declined for case, gender or number and very few Latin adverbs ending in -tim are Hebrew, singular or plural.


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#102319 - 05/02/03 07:11 PM Re: legitim
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oy!

[conversationally, this is probably all I would have to offer at this point.]
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#102320 - 05/02/03 09:33 PM Post deleted by Bingley
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#102321 - 05/02/03 09:51 PM Re: legitim
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>and proper nouns

and from there it was but one small step for me, kind of skipping to initialisms whilst engaging the VCD.


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#102322 - 05/02/03 11:40 PM Re: legitim
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In reply to:

I think this is an error. Thee are Latin adverbs ending in -tim, but "legitim" is not one.
That would be "legitime". I can remember "statim", 'seriatim", "verbatim".
How many others can you remember?



iuxtim = equally
adfatim = enough
viritim = individually
confertim = in close order
confestim = immediately


You're quite right, Bill -- they were few and far between.


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#102323 - 05/03/03 08:29 AM Re: legitim
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dub-dub broadened it

If I asked for a list of novels by Pearl Buck would you have broadened the question by contributing Sweet Thursday on the grounds that the author's name also ends in ck?

Not ignoring the fact that Dub' Dub explicitly denied broadening the question


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#102324 - 05/03/03 09:09 AM Post deleted by Bingley
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#102325 - 05/03/03 10:56 AM post attenuated by tsuwm
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>Not ignoring the fact that Dub' Dub explicitly denied broadening the question

this is, as the former Capital Kiwi might put it, so much codswollop.

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#102326 - 05/03/03 03:44 PM Re: legitim
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If somebody else's list of works by Pearl S. Buck contained obvious interlopers

But Dub' Dub's list wasn't from a list of Latin adverbs ending in tim, it was from a list of words ending in tim.

a list of 15 words which inherently denies dr. bill's entire ("Latin adverbs") premise

Or either ignores it, one, tsuwm.

put the blame on Onelook.com for broadening it.

That's because you didn't ask it the right question, D'D

And I don't mind threads going off in all directions, but when someone asks a question…

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#102327 - 05/03/03 09:52 PM Re: legitim
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Sorry, Faldage. I was kidding around with wwh and he knew I was kidding around with him. Yes, I just entered *im into Onelook and hit the 'common words'--but just for fun. I figured you Latin scholars would come in with correct responses anyway. You and everybody around here must know by now I know nothing about Latin. I'm very sorry to have caused a problem and will delete everything I wrote in order to purify the thread again.


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#102328 - 05/04/03 04:08 AM Re: legitim
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I can but follow the lady's example and remove the offending words. My apologies for any thread-sullying. I will try and eschew any future irrelevancies.

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#102329 - 05/04/03 06:07 AM Re: legitim
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oy! again, I say, oy!

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#102330 - 05/04/03 09:48 AM Re: legitim
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ubertim = copiously


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#102331 - 05/04/03 10:30 AM Re: legitim
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Dear Coffeebean: Nice find. I was able to check it out at Bingley's Perseus site:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?X23B26074

I think it a reasonable surmise that the German "über" = "over" comes from this root, ubertas,ubertatis

This is the thing I love most about AWADtalk! Thanks, again, Coffebean

Edit: I just remembered, bad taste to use 'love" for things that cannot return love. Eighth grade English.

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#102332 - 05/04/03 10:49 AM Re: legitim
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>I don't mind threads going off in all directions, but when someone asks a question…

as a rule, I agree with this. but in this case, the question didn't seem all that weighty in the first instance, having been posed without much context (e.g., from where was legitim gleaned? what prompted the question? what is the significance of the suffix?).

my -in-cheek response with the initialism might have been construed as waffling, but has now been rendered moot and I shall delete that also.

addendum: Coffeebean has shown that my reaction to the question was probably misguided. so it goes.


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#102333 - 05/04/03 12:13 PM Re: legitim
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Dear tsuwm: I have stated repeatedly that the words I post here are from the
Scripps-Howard spelling bee list, to which I posted URL a couple times.
Again I say I thi;nk "legitim" was a typo. At least it provoked some discussion,
and some nice posts by Coffeebean, to whom I drink only with my eyes,
the brew she evidently enjoys.


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#102334 - 05/05/03 12:45 AM Re: legitim
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raptim = hastily, violently

tuatim = in your usual fashion

membratim = in short sentences (literally, “limb by limb”)

Don't you find it interesting to see that they had one adjective to mean "in short sentences"? What would the equivalent be in English? tersely?


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#102335 - 05/05/03 09:36 AM Re: legitim
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My dictionary defines viritim as "individually" but I see that literally that would mean "man by man."

turmatim = troop by troop.

Evidently these are military terms. Perhaps handy words to know when planning to conquer the world......


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#102336 - 05/05/03 12:59 PM Re: legitim
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Dear CB: I'm wrong about "legitim" having been a typo. I searched again and found two sites
that used it, but not as an adverb. One gave sort of a definition:
"LEGITIM: That part of an estate over which the testator has no power of disposal if there
are forced heirs, the latter beingalways the children and generally the surviving spouse.
Some laws include the parents and other ascendants or descendants."



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#102337 - 05/05/03 03:14 PM Re: legitim
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Yeahbut®, that's an English noun, -- you're still correct in saying that there is no Latin adverb "legitim".


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#102338 - 05/05/03 03:57 PM Re: legitim
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>you're still correct in saying that there is no Latin adverb "legitim".

this gets back to my confusion, which Bill has now clarified(?) by saying that he thought legitim was an Scrips-Howard typo--not a legitimate spelling bee (thus English) word. I think.


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#102339 - 05/05/03 10:05 PM Re: legitim
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propritim = properly

summatim = cursorily, summarily


syllabatim = syllable by syllable.

Now, do we have an English word for that?


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#102340 - 05/09/03 10:33 PM Re: adverbs
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ordinatim = properly, in order

ostiatim = door to door

pagatim = in every village


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#102341 - 05/10/03 06:29 AM Re: adverbs
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#102342 - 05/10/03 10:52 AM Re: adverbs
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...just Roman through my dictionary.....



paulatim = little by little

partim = partly

privatim = at home, privately

Some of these are easy to figure out once you recognize the -tim suffix which makes it an adverb.

As I told Dr. Bill, I've used my little Latin dictionary more in the last week than in the last 20 years!


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#102343 - 05/10/03 01:58 PM Re: adverbs
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It occurred to me that most of these adverbs ending in -tim
had a time element involved, a series of actions. So I wondered if the etymology had anything to do with time.
Apparently not.But in looki;ng a discovered an inpressive site which set out to cover all of the humanities. But there had been no posts in the etymology part since 2000.
I'll go back and get URL and add it in case anybody wants
to browse that site. I had problems wwith navigation there, so didn't get to see any of the posts.
http://www.humanityquest.com/


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