#102307 - 05/01/03 04:15 PM
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I think this is an error. Thee are Latin adverbs ending in -tim, but "legitim" is not one.
That would be "legitime". I can remember "statim", 'seriatim", "verbatim".
How many others can you remember?
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#102308 - 05/01/03 05:56 PM
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#102309 - 05/01/03 06:09 PM
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Dear WW: naughty of you to use some that are obviously not Latin. I'm suspicious of
"shittim", and I'm almosted convinced ";uniapishtime" is from legend of Gilgamesh. Sotta
go look that up.
Scpre one for me. TaDa!
2. Newsday.com - The Legend of Gilgamesh
... immortality. He finally meets a wise man, Unapishtim, who directs him to a plant at the bottom of the sea that
bestows eternal life. ...
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#102310 - 05/01/03 06:30 PM
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Lots of Hebrew words end in " -im" Shittim is one.
"feminine of a derivative (only in the plural shittiym
{shit-teem'}; meaning the sticks of wood) from the
same as 'shotet' (7850); the acacia (from its scourging
thorns):--shittah, shittim. See also 'Beyth hash-Shittah'
(1029
Reminds me of ancient joke about cowboy and Indian going to hotel. Next morning room service
found cowboy on 'the best seat in the house", with an arrow through his heart. The Indian
confessed. "Me do it. Tribal law. He shittim in spring."
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#102311 - 05/01/03 06:46 PM
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Your doctor has ordered the drug filgrastim to help treat your illness. The drug
will be infused ...
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#102312 - 05/01/03 06:50 PM
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. lactim tautomers in 2(1 H )-pyridone catalysis of aromatic nucleophilic substitution Anne Loppinet-Serani, Florence
Charbonnier,* Christian Rolando and Ivan ...
www.iecb-polytechnique.u-bordeaux.fr/publis/1998/jcspt21998937.pdf view as html | more results from this site
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#102313 - 05/01/03 06:52 PM
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. Drug description Sargramostim is used to treat non-Hodgkinís
lymphomas and acute leukemia. ...
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#102314 - 05/01/03 08:01 PM
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#102315 - 05/02/03 09:09 AM
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unciatim = ounce by ounce.
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#102316 - 05/02/03 09:53 AM
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#102317 - 05/02/03 09:57 AM
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#102319 - 05/02/03 07:11 PM
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oy!
[conversationally, this is probably all I would have to offer at this point.]
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#102320 - 05/02/03 09:33 PM
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#102322 - 05/02/03 11:40 PM
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In reply to:
I think this is an error. Thee are Latin adverbs ending in -tim, but "legitim" is not one.
That would be "legitime". I can remember "statim", 'seriatim", "verbatim".
How many others can you remember?
iuxtim = equally
adfatim = enough
viritim = individually
confertim = in close order
confestim = immediately
You're quite right, Bill -- they were few and far between.
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#102324 - 05/03/03 09:09 AM
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#102327 - 05/03/03 09:52 PM
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Sorry, Faldage. I was kidding around with wwh and he knew I was kidding around with him. Yes, I just entered *im into Onelook and hit the 'common words'--but just for fun. I figured you Latin scholars would come in with correct responses anyway. You and everybody around here must know by now I know nothing about Latin. I'm very sorry to have caused a problem and will delete everything I wrote in order to purify the thread again.
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#102328 - 05/04/03 04:08 AM
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I can but follow the lady's example and remove the offending words. My apologies for any thread-sullying. I will try and eschew any future irrelevancies.
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#102329 - 05/04/03 06:07 AM
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oy! again, I say, oy!
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#102330 - 05/04/03 09:48 AM
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#102331 - 05/04/03 10:30 AM
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Dear Coffeebean: Nice find. I was able to check it out at Bingley's Perseus site:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?X23B26074
I think it a reasonable surmise that the German "über" = "over" comes from this root, ubertas,ubertatis
This is the thing I love most about AWADtalk! Thanks, again, Coffebean
Edit: I just remembered, bad taste to use 'love" for things that cannot return love. Eighth grade English.
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#102332 - 05/04/03 10:49 AM
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>I don't mind threads going off in all directions, but when someone asks a question… as a rule, I agree with this. but in this case, the question didn't seem all that weighty in the first instance, having been posed without much context (e.g., from where was legitim gleaned? what prompted the question? what is the significance of the suffix?). my  -in-cheek response with the initialism might have been construed as waffling, but has now been rendered moot and I shall delete that also. addendum: Coffeebean has shown that my reaction to the question was probably misguided. so it goes.
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#102333 - 05/04/03 12:13 PM
Re: legitim
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Dear tsuwm: I have stated repeatedly that the words I post here are from the
Scripps-Howard spelling bee list, to which I posted URL a couple times.
Again I say I thi;nk "legitim" was a typo. At least it provoked some discussion,
and some nice posts by Coffeebean, to whom I drink only with my eyes,
the brew she evidently enjoys.
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#102335 - 05/05/03 09:36 AM
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My dictionary defines viritim as "individually" but I see that literally that would mean "man by man." turmatim = troop by troop. Evidently these are military terms. Perhaps handy words to know when planning to conquer the world...... 
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#102336 - 05/05/03 12:59 PM
Re: legitim
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Dear CB: I'm wrong about "legitim" having been a typo. I searched again and found two sites
that used it, but not as an adverb. One gave sort of a definition:
"LEGITIM: That part of an estate over which the testator has no power of disposal if there
are forced heirs, the latter beingalways the children and generally the surviving spouse.
Some laws include the parents and other ascendants or descendants."
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#102342 - 05/10/03 10:52 AM
Re: adverbs
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...just Roman through my dictionary.....
paulatim = little by little
partim = partly
privatim = at home, privately
Some of these are easy to figure out once you recognize the -tim suffix which makes it an adverb.
As I told Dr. Bill, I've used my little Latin dictionary more in the last week than in the last 20 years!
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#102343 - 05/10/03 01:58 PM
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It occurred to me that most of these adverbs ending in -tim had a time element involved, a series of actions. So I wondered if the etymology had anything to do with time. Apparently not.But in looki;ng a discovered an inpressive site which set out to cover all of the humanities. But there had been no posts in the etymology part since 2000. I'll go back and get URL and add it in case anybody wants to browse that site. I had problems wwith navigation there, so didn't get to see any of the posts. http://www.humanityquest.com/
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