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Posted By: AnnaStrophic Totally cool! - 05/22/03 12:16 PM
tsuwm's man Jesse AND my favorite linguist, Geoff Nunberg!

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Totally cool! - 05/22/03 12:29 PM
how many folks here plan on chatting in? I hope to.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Totally cool! - 05/22/03 12:32 PM
don't miss Jesse! here's a sample of his style, an answer to a question put to him about the difference between a couple of those rhetorical terms that get mentioned here so often:

The most important thing in any discussion like this is the fact that
most rhetorical terms aren't defined quite as precisely as one would
want or expect. I've always been interested by them, and I remember
in college going to a professor of mine, the chairman of the classics
department, to ask about some subtle distinction between two terms,
and he basically laughed and said that it was completely irrelevant.

That said, in _my_ understanding, _apophasis_ is actually saying
something specific while denying that you are going talk about it
(e.g. "I won't mention the fact that Representative Smith has been
supporting three children from adulterous relationships"), while
_paralipsis_ (in various spellings, or _pr(a)eteritio(n),_ which is
the same thing with a totally different name_) is the implication of
something more serious by deliberately concise treatment (e.g.
"I don't have time to mention Representative Jones's other faults.")


Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Totally cool! - 05/22/03 01:53 PM
And here's Nunberg's home page:

http://www-csli.stanford.edu/~nunberg/Nunberg.html

(among other things, he chairs the AHD's usage panel)

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend If I have time I'm coming - 05/22/03 04:52 PM

sounds like fun

k

Posted By: websafe Re: If I have time I'm coming - 05/24/03 11:43 PM
What is this event, and is it already over?

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: If I have time I'm coming - 05/24/03 11:47 PM
not yet!

http://wordsmith.org/chat/

Posted By: Bingley Re: Totally cool! - 05/26/03 05:10 AM
Not at 3 o'clock in the morning I won't be.

Bingley
Posted By: Jackie Re: Totally cool! - 05/26/03 01:23 PM
Um, the link says 5pm. Pacific time, Bingley, which would be 8pm. where I am, which would be 7am. Tuesday for you. P'raps you can be late for work that day.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Totally cool! - 05/26/03 01:25 PM
don't you just love the globe?

Posted By: Bingley Re: Totally cool! - 05/26/03 01:38 PM
Um, GMT -7 to GMT +7 is 14 hours. 5 p.m. = 17:00 - 14 = 3 a.m. But wait, should I be adding rather than subtracting? [loss of brain cells becoming acute]

Bingley
Posted By: Jackie Re: Totally cool! - 05/26/03 01:46 PM
I don't have a clue, I've never learned GMT.

Posted By: Bean Re: Totally cool! - 05/26/03 02:09 PM
Yes, I think you should be adding, since you are "ahead" of the time zone where it will take place. So I think Jackie's right about the 7am thing.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Temporally cool! - 05/26/03 03:09 PM
Check it out here:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Temporally cool! - 05/26/03 03:26 PM
looks like you should join us for breakfast, Bingley!


of course, it's 11:30 PM there now, so he's probably abed!
Posted By: Jackie Re: Temporally cool! - 05/26/03 05:20 PM
he's probably abed
Erm, no, I have reason to believe he's still a man...

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Temporally cool! - 05/26/03 06:07 PM
*rimshot

"thank you, thank you very much. we're here every night."

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Meanwhile - 05/26/03 08:46 PM
Faldage and I are going to try to post at the chat individually, on one computer, using two browsers. If that doesn't work, well, know that we're both there!

(eta and Jackie, y'all're too much... )

Posted By: websafe Temporally cruel! - 05/26/03 09:44 PM
As far as I can tell, if this chat is scheduled for 5-6 pm PST, it will be 8-9 pm EST for me. Someone please reassure me!

Posted By: Faldage Re: Temporally cruel! - 05/26/03 09:46 PM
5-6 pm PST, it will be 8-9 pm EST

Sure nuff!

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Temporally cruel! - 05/26/03 09:50 PM
sounds right to me!



I really like your artwork!

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Totally cool! - 05/26/03 10:30 PM
Might be a good idea to go ahead and enter the chat now, just to make sure your browser works, etc. It says it wants your full name and country, but there deisn't seem to be room for both. I've just logged in as AnnaStrophic.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Totally cool! - 05/27/03 12:11 AM
well, that was fun!

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Totally cool! - 05/27/03 12:52 PM
Yeah, and interesting, too! I hope more folks will show for the next chat.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Totally cool! - 05/27/03 01:08 PM
I wish I could have joined in; but you guys asked great questions!

---
as to his response to the question of the high cost of online access, I doubt they'll ever change their marketing philosophy--the same one which has the 20-volume sets mostly in libraries or writer's hands and so forth. (BTW, for the 75th anniversary you can now buy the set for the low price of $895 US.)

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Totally cool! - 05/27/03 01:11 PM
I missed you there, tsuwm. Is the transcript of the chat already available? Or were you lurking? (-;

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Totally cool! - 05/27/03 01:31 PM
late last night it was inline to the announcement--not as yet linked.

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