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Posted By: Capital Kiwi Daltonism x 2? - 04/27/01 06:29 AM
Has everyone received "Daltonism" as AWAD twice this week?

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen Re: Daltonism x 2? - 04/27/01 07:39 AM
I haven't, but then I did not receive my AWAD for the 21st or 22nd, so if it came on either of those days, I would not have seen the duplication.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Daltonism x 2? - 04/27/01 10:38 AM
Not me, Cap'n Upper-case. You must be color-blind.

Posted By: wwh Re: Daltonism x 2? - 04/27/01 02:00 PM
Once only here.

Posted By: wow Re: Word A day, or two, or three-in-a-day - 04/27/01 04:54 PM
I have stopped checking on when, I just treat it as a nice surprise when it arrives, one day, next day, skip a day or two, then three in one day. Who cares? Not me.
Anytime the Great Anu deigns to contact me, however ephemerally, I bow and accept the communication as his mark of favour.
wow
High Priestess


Ah well, then, I'm obviously just twice-blessed!

Posted By: LRReiche Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 03:08 PM
Not me, too.

Lance ==)--------------
Posted By: maverick Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 04:23 PM
I haven't been in a position to get AWAD for a fortnight - so now I feel like the kid forced to dig his way out of a snowdrift of sugar-puffs!

Welcome, LRR - cool trick with your email address But upgrades are your hobby???!

Posted By: Sparteye Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 04:34 PM
But upgrades are your hobby???!

Mav, dear: you did notice that he is from Cedar Rapids, Iowa? [just-kidding-Iowa-is-terrific emoticon]


Posted By: maverick Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 04:36 PM
terrific - yeah, but FLAT!

Posted By: wow Re: Iowa - 05/01/01 05:14 PM
Drove through Iowa on cross country trip. OFF the Interstates. Really nifty towns with some great examples of Victorian and American Gothic architecture. And some amazing antique shops! Nice folks,too.
But I cannot argue with "flat", Mav, except for the parties which are anything but!!!
Welcome Iowa!
wow

Posted By: Bobyoungbalt Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 06:40 PM
I didn't get it at all, and have been missing a lot of daily offerings. I received an email from Anu today noting that there is a problem with AOL email. He got on to some people at AOL but didn't get any satisfaction. Apparantly, this is a problem systemwide with AOL to the point that AOL mail is becoming a joke. I knew there were problems, but didn't know it was that bad. I sent my own message to Steve Case suggesting he get one of his geniuses on the problem before this mighty empire he has built up founders on such a simple matter as email, which is, after all, one of the main reasons one uses AOL, or any other IPI. Have any of you also had problems with AOL?

Posted By: Hyla Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 07:00 PM
IPI

Where I neck in the woods...er, I mean, out here in California, we say ISP - Internet Service Provider. What's an IPI (besides a sixties counter-culture type)?

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 07:56 PM
Where I neck in the woods...er, I mean, out here in California, we say ISP

As do we here at the top of the world. I think that everybody does, except for those poor unfortunates using AOL, aka AOHell, AOSmell, etc. In every computer-related NG I frequent, the chant is the same, "AOL is NOT a real ISP", "AOL is the work of the Devil", "dump AOL while you still can"

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 09:15 PM
I can't remember whether this came up in a post on the Board, or whether I was in some other forum, but the ones to avoid like the plague are:

AOL
MSN
Hotmail
Yahoo

These "providers", as I understand it, lay claim in the fine print to all your material on their servers as their property including your commercially-sensitive information and intellectual property. When challenged, apparently they say that it's to keep them out of legal hot water, and that they don't, in fact, invade your files at all. You'd use them of course. Yeah, right.

Note that the wording they use seems innocuous, but Sparteye or Scribbler or any half-trained legal eagle would apparently spot the problems pretty much right away. This doesn't include me.

No doubt there are other ISPs out there who will steal anything which isn't nailed down. Using a webmail provider is, however, a major risk. I research ISPs as best I can, myself ...

Posted By: wwh Re: Daltonism x 2? - 05/01/01 11:27 PM
Re: material in e-mail being property of ISP

So what if it is. Few of us have anything there of potential monetary value. And with so many subscribers, how could the ISP afford the cost of searching for anything they could profit from?

I'd be a lot more upset by Bobyoungbalt's information that AOL fails to deliver a significant number of messages.That really stinks. I used to get notice that messages I had sent to another board member had become "enqeued" for several days, and could never tell for sure whether or not they were delivered. I suspect that the other party's ISP was somehow incompetent.

How can you find out if your ISP is ripping you off? Your friends do not want to be quizzed about every message.


Posted By: musick And they'll tell two friends, and so on... - 05/02/01 03:05 PM
So what if it is. Few of us have anything there of potential monetary value.

The only real answer to this (aside from the occasional pre-published poem, or creating a collection of your e-mails to be subpoenaed(sp?) at a latter date) is the collection of e-mail addresses and future (for me present) junk mail wrath!

Check your ISP's privacy policy (if they have one).

Posted By: Capital Kiwi ISPs - 05/02/01 07:06 PM
Bill has asked a legitimate question: "So what if your ISP is not particularly ethical?"

Two things you need to consider before using email to transfer potentially actionable or sensitive information around the place:

1. Most ISPs are working at very low margins and will be looking for any way they can to make a buck.
2. Not all ISPs are ethical in the way they treat their customers, never mind in respect of the data on their servers.

You and I may not have much to lose this way; but companies who use an ISP whose business ethics are dodgy are just asking for trouble.

I have problems with using any any supplier of services who acts unethically whether that affects me directly or not.

Posted By: wwh Re: ISPs - 05/02/01 07:59 PM
Bill has asked a legitimate question: "So what if your ISP is not particularly ethical?"

Dear CK: that is not quite what I said. I would not want to support an unethical company. My problem is that I do not see how to tell which ISP is best for me.

I am reminded of an old timer's aphorism: "There ain't no choice in a pig turd."

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: ISPs - 05/02/01 10:55 PM
I am reminded of an old timer's aphorism: "There ain't no choice in a pig turd."

Graphic but unfortunately true. Conjures up another bout of WordPix, it really does.

Posted By: emanuela Yowa x 2? - 05/06/01 07:09 AM
Did anyone notice that the bios of
Eubie Kwyatt and LRReiche
seem to show that they are the same person?

Emanuela


Posted By: Max Quordlepleen Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/06/01 09:00 AM
Did anyone notice that the bios of
Eubie Kwyatt and LRReiche
seem to show that they are the same person?


Lance was very open in admitting that he had decided to register anew under a different nym, I just can't be bothered tracking down the relevant post.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/06/01 11:35 AM
Did anyone notice that the bios of
Eubie Kwyatt and LRReiche
seem to show that they are the same person?


Ok, I finally got the subject title--ol' Lance is from the
corny state.
But, speaking of corn, I think he did this so his two alter
egos can hold conversations: "oh, be quiet". "No, YOU be quiet."

Since this is I & A, I would like to say that Monarchos is
one heluva horse. He charged up from the back of the pack
on the outside to win the Kentucky Derby in the second-fastest time ever, just 2/5ths of a second slower than Secretariat.

Posted By: Bobyoungbalt Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/07/01 05:37 PM
Kentucky Derby
Jackie, my sweet, what a race! You are correct that that is one great horse. And the payoffs were tremendous -- huge pay on the trifecta, I noticed. What interested me as much as the horses was that I thought that the racetrack looked especially good this year -- did they do some sprucing up, or something? Churchill Downs is a really beautiful racetrack; Pimlico can't hold a candle to it, and Belmont Park is a dump. [For outlanders, the Triple Crown of US horseracing consists of the Kentucky Derby, which was run last Sat. at Churchill Downs in Kentucky (Lexington, Jackie?); the Preakness Stakes which will run on May 20 at Pimlico Racetrack in Baltimore (actually within the city limits and about 3 miles from my house); and the Belmont Stakes, which runs 2 or 3 weeks after the Preakness at Belmont Park in New York (forget exactly where it is -- Long Island? -- help, Helen!). There have been only a handful of Triple Crown winners in the 100+ years that all 3 races have been run, and none since 1973.

I look forward to seeing Monarchos in the Preakness. I shall be watching it on TV. I wouldn't dream of going to the track on Preakness Day. Pimlico is squeezed into a rather small area, the stands don't hold enough people, the infield is packed with rowdy college-age kids who are there to party in uncouth fashion, and the traffic is unspeakable, due to the crowds (usually better than 50,000).

Posted By: Jackie Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/07/01 05:53 PM
Jackie, my sweet,
! Thank you! again.

The Kentucky Derby is run right here in Louisville,
(actually within the city limits and about 3 miles from my house).
Really!

Yes, CD always spruces up big-time for the derby, as does the whole city. People go to the track in their "Sunday best", and the ladies always wear superb, showy hats--it's a long tradtion. People give parties all over. I guess the most famous one is given by the Barnstable twins (the ones who were in that old Doublemint gum commercial). They invite celebrities, have a huge gala for which they charge
$500 a plate, and the proceeds go to diabetes research.

Derby festival events begin a few weeks in advance of the day, and culminate in something special every single day of Derby Week. There are foot races, bed races, a balloon race, the Pegasus Parade, and the Great Steamboat Race between the Belle of Louisville and the Delta Queen of Cincinnati. It is grand to be here then!

Posted By: of troy Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/07/01 07:57 PM
Belmont Park is just out side the NYC limits-- If you have a road map for NYC-- it is just east of the Queens border-- on NY 24 (Hempstead Parkway-- pronounced Hemp (like the fiber) stead as in "steady as she goes") and in the "town" of Belmont. As the crow flies-- about 5 miles south of me..a little longer by highways. and BYB is right-- it is a bit of a dump. I never go for the races-- no interest, but i have been to the park.

And yes it is Long Island (or as the natives say Lawn Guyland) And while as a point of geography Queens is on the same land mass-- Queens and Brooklyn are not part of Long Island-- Politics is strong force than geography.. I do not live on LI-- I live in Queens. (just as the local NYC Jail -- Rikers (Island) is "in the Bronx" -{the island is considered part of the Bronx} but the only access road to the island is from Queens. And prisoners are "released" to Queens, not to the Bronx. --any one who has watched NY Cops shows will have heard of Riker's--
NYC holding cells for the court house is called "The Tombs")

I think the belmont stakes is June 10th, but i could be wrong.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic That's what makes horse races - 05/07/01 08:32 PM
Jackie, cool.
I was wondering why we sold so many copies of "Seabiscuit" on Sunday... fergot all about that thar darby.

Meanwhile, Helen reminds us: (Hempstead Parkway-- pronounced Hemp (like the fiber) stead as in "steady as she goes")

How else would anyone be tempted to pronounce it?

"I got the horse right here, his name is Paul Revere, and there's a guy that says if the weather's clear..."



Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: That's what makes horse races - 05/08/01 08:46 AM
Hempstead - How else would anyone be tempted to pronounce it?

Not tempted, just do it - Ham-stid. No "p" at all.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: That's what makes horse races - 05/08/01 12:06 PM
Ham-stid.

Whoops! How parochial of me.

Posted By: Faldage Re: That's what makes horse races - 05/08/01 01:11 PM
Our favorite Chinese Gooseberry proclaims that he can pronounce it Ham-stid. No "p" at all.

Wow! You can go from the M to the S without making a P sound? How do you *do that??

Posted By: of troy Re: That's what makes horse races - 05/08/01 02:49 PM
and be honest CK-- the i in the "stid" is hardly even there... (which is close to how my mother says it- and no one understands what she is talking about!) But locally it is one of the word that is said just as it is spelt!

Posted By: Bobyoungbalt Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/08/01 06:31 PM
Horseraces
Amazing coincidence that we have, as regulars on this board, one person in Louisville, one in Baltimore and one in NYC, each only a hop, skip and jump from Churchill Downs, Pimlico and Belmont respectively. You would think we would be the world's authorities on horses, but it appears that none of us goes to the track much, if at all.

Posted By: of troy Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/08/01 06:43 PM
Lets take that to an extreme-- for several months i dated a profressional gambler-- he had licences from the states of Nevada and North Dakota-- I spent a weekend with him at foxwood's casino in Connecticut -- and never once gambled-- He was living there-- (24/7!) so he could gamble full time.

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/08/01 07:47 PM
for several months i dated a profressional gambler

He should have lived here. I knew a professional gambler once. This was several years ago, before NZ had any casinos. He made a modest living betting on horses. The great thing about being a professional gambler here is that all winnings from any form of gambling are tax-free, so that if you're good enough, you can live comfortably withut paying a cent in tax.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/09/01 07:25 AM
I worked with an "advertising account executive" for a while who lived a lifestyle totally OTT in respect of his income. Turned out he was an extremely good picker of horses ... gambled big, won big, didn't lose all that often.

If only!

Posted By: of troy Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/09/01 02:35 PM
Gambling winnings here are taxed! Once in awhile, you'll see someone who has won big-- walking around-- and picking up losing stubs off the floor-- since you can "offset" your "earning" by proving your loses...

and since since big houses (casinos, raceparks, etc) are a business- if you win very big-- they report it to the IRS-- (internal revenue)-- and places like OTB (off track betting) or lotteries-- are often government run- and they tax comes out before you ever see the money!

the US is big on vice taxes-- smoking, drinking and gambling are all taxed at a rate higher than other purchases/income.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/09/01 07:10 PM
> none of us goes to the track much

...and apparently well avoided!
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/thompson/010507.html

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen Re: Yowa x 2? - 05/09/01 07:31 PM
and apparently well avoided!
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/thompson/010507.html



There's a man who better pray that he doesn't meet Jackie alone in a dark alley!

Posted By: wow Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/09/01 08:03 PM
the US is big on vice taxes-- smoking, drinking and gambling are all taxed at a rate higher than other purchases/income.

Here in God's country we call 'em "sin taxes.'


Posted By: of troy Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/09/01 08:14 PM
Drinking a sin? Sure wasn't one of the first miracle Jesus performed the turn of wine into water?
Do you think cursing to be a sin too? I think not-- sure didn't god himself tell the devil "go to hell!"

Posted By: wwh Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/09/01 08:20 PM
The government would tax sex if they could figure out how to do it. May be a cross between a chastity belt and a parking meter.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/09/01 08:47 PM
The government would tax sex if they could figure out how to do it. May be a cross between a chastity belt and a parking meter.

Bill, do I sense a patent about to be filed? It might sell real well in Louisville, just prior to Derby
Week--to anxious daddies, that is. Tsuwm, my husband
lerves
(thanks, CK) Hunter Thompson, and I am here to testify that every word he wrote is the truth...

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/09/01 09:27 PM
Tsuwm, my husband [loves]Hunter Thompson...

i had to read that twice; for a second there i thought i had completely missed the fact that either (1) tsuwm is your husband or (2) in a remarkable twist of fate, you married another man named Tsuwm

Posted By: Jackie Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/10/01 02:29 AM
i thought i had completely missed the fact that either (1) tsuwm is your husband or (2) in a remarkable twist of fate, you married another man named Tsuwm

Get a grip, child! You'll give our tsuwm a case of the
screaming meemies...



Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/10/01 05:46 AM
Bill, do I sense a patent about to be filed? It might sell real well in Louisville, just prior to Derby
Week--to anxious daddies, that is. Tsuwm, my husband
lerves (thanks, CK) Hunter Thompson, and I am here to testify that every word he wrote is the truth...


Hunter Thompson? D'you mean Hunter S. Thompson? Moi? Not ... I get fear and loathing every time I see one of his books! He's a real snake in the grass.

And I vaguely remember that this thread started out with me wondering if everyone was colour-blind but seeing everything twice ... Yossarian for President. I liked the self-doubt. Very taxing for him, though.

Posted By: Bobyoungbalt Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/10/01 03:19 PM
sex taxes
That suggestion brings a lot of hilarious pictures to mind. Whould they employ meter maids to check on those running overtime? If you neglected to pay your tickets, would they attach a boot to your driving apparatus?

Posted By: Sparteye Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/10/01 04:30 PM
i thought i had completely missed the fact that either (1) tsuwm is your husband or (2) in a remarkable twist of fate, you married another man named Tsuwm

I had to read that twice, too.

Get a grip, child! You'll give our tsuwm a case of the
screaming meemies...


But it would explain a lot about the relationship between the two Pooh-Bahs!


Posted By: tsuwm confusion? pooh! bah!! - 05/10/01 04:38 PM
did someone mention a hugger-mugger?!

Posted By: wow Re: confusion? pooh! bah!! - 05/10/01 04:46 PM
hugger-mugger

As in being secret/clandestine? Or in the sense of sowing confusion? Not that the Two Pooh Bahs would ever do that ON PURPOSE!!

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen Re: Re : Gamblin' n' taxes - 05/10/01 08:05 PM
i thought i had completely missed the fact that either (1) tsuwm is your husband or (2) in a remarkable twist of fate, you married another man named Tsuwm

I had to read that twice, too.


As did I. It is nice to know that I was not alone in my confusion.

Posted By: Jackie confusion? pooh! bah!! - 05/11/01 03:28 AM
Now dag nab it, I've told you people that my posts come out spaced differently than the way I type them!
'T'ain't my fault that the line ended with Tsuwm, my husband.

(BTW, T-dear, when are we gonna tell 'em?)

Posted By: of troy Re: confusion? pooh! bah!! - 05/11/01 01:28 PM
'T'ain't my fault that the line ended with Tsuwm, my husband.

What a shame your line is dying out , Tsuwm-- and I guess Jackie your son, isn't Tsuwm son-- Well that been covered on this board-- "Paternity events" I think was the term... My AWAD is a regular little Peyton Place!

Posted By: tsuwm Re: confusion? pooh! bah!! - 05/11/01 02:29 PM
please note that Jackie's husband, Tsuwm
spells his name differently.
-ron obvious

Posted By: Jackie Re: confusion? pooh! bah!! - 05/11/01 04:05 PM
please note that Jackie's husband, Tsuwm
spells his name differently.


I capitalized it 'cause it was the beginning of the sentence, Pooh-bah Honey.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: he'p me rhonda - 05/11/01 06:24 PM
>I capitalized it 'cause it was the beginning of the sentence

so where in Strunk & White do it say that sentence placement takes precedence over improper spelling?!
-ron

Posted By: Jackie Re: he'p me rhonda - 05/11/01 07:09 PM
so where in Strunk & White do it say that sentence placement takes precedence over improper spelling?!

On page 39, paragraph 2, ron, Honey.

Who are Strunk & White?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Strunk'n'White - 05/11/01 08:25 PM
(oh goody I get to say this before tsuwm does):

Jackie, YCLIU

You might be more familiar with Mr White in his persona as author of Charlotte's Web and Stuart Little.

Hope this helps [ducking]

Posted By: Jackie Re: Strunk'n'White - 05/12/01 03:06 AM
Psst, Anna--
I put that question just so it would be clear that I was pulling the wool over tsuwm's eyes... [evil grin]

In response to the Pooh-Bah's complaint that the Pooh-Binah had misspelled his name, the Pooh-Binah replies: I capitalized it 'cause it was the beginning of the sentence

The Pooh-Bah responds: so where in Strunk & White do it say that sentence placement takes precedence over improper spelling?!

I must say, that strictly speaking, choice of capitalization is not a matter of spelling. T is a t is a t, to coin an old paraphrase.

That said, none other that whatever the name of that on-line magazine is has decreed that words which would normally be capitalized, such as people's names, e.g., t. s. eliot, but aren't, remain uncapitalized in contexts in which normally uncapitalized words would be capitalized, e.g., at the beginning of a sentence.

In reply to:

That said, none other that whatever the name of that on-line magazine is has decreed that
words which would normally be capitalized, such as people's names, e.g., t. s. eliot, but aren't,
remain uncapitalized in contexts in which normally uncapitalized words would be capitalized,
e.g., at the beginning of a sentence


tyvm


tsuwm tsays: tyvm

yw

tsuwm tsays: tyvm

Oh, pooh on you, then!

And--I ain't no 'Binah--I've got dark-brown hair and brown eyes.


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