Eve's name, appearing in the Bible only five times, according to an article I just read.

I wonder how it is pronounced in Hebrew? As always, I do wish we still used original names though I understand why it is too much against the tide to do so. One site gives her name as HawwAh, but I can't find any reason for capitalizing the second 'a'. I like Hawwah over Eve because it sounds more ancient to my ear. It means something like 'giver of life' or 'mother of all life.'

Alack Wordwind, I tried but everytime I say "Hawwah" an earworm reminds me of the Beethoven routine by John Belushi where his doting sisters would stand behind the deaf Beethoven and shout ...

PLEASE LUDWIG! YOU MUST EAT! YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING AT THE PIANO FOR TWO DAYS. IF YOU DON'T GET UP FROM THE PIANO AND EAT YOU WILL DIE! PLEASE, LUDWIG, PLEASE DON'T DIE!

A few moments pass and then Beethoven turns and looks up from the piano where he has been composing and smiles and says...Oh, hello, hawwahya?



Here though, is a neat Beethoven Christmas site that plays the most pleasant background music as you read about his life.

http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Bio/BiographyLudwig.html

I do wish we still used original names though I understand why it is too much against the tide to do so.

A child will woe betide
A name running agin the tide

As our own themilum has just made so [comically] evident:

Oh, hello, hawwahya?

he most pleasant background music

I"m sure he loves that...

in arabic her name is pronounced hawwah, as well. the second 'a' comes from the throat, so i suppose that the stress is on the second syllable. perhaps something of that sort is why the a is capatalized? of course, hebrew isn't all that similar to arabic...

Bluefruitbowl: Your name conjures up as much fascination as your insightful post.

I, for one, look forward to more of such beguiling fruit.

actually, i've always thought of my username as meaning 'a fruit bowl that is blue' ^-^

Hue got me there, bluefruitbowl.

Even so, just as a fluid takes the shape of its vessel, a plum takes the hue of its bowl.

And the fruits of our labor take the hue of our resolve.

The 'you' that we take as our name
Cannot take us to glory or shame
But it lets us aspire
And it gives us desire
To achieve the goals we proclaim.

Hi bluefruitbowl welcome to Awad!

Don't mind Plutarch, he speaks in rhymes as a blueblood speaks in french, that is,
because he can speak well in rhymes and most of us can't (except Maverick).

Please tell me Bluefruitbowl, do you represent the male or the female of our kind?
Sometimes I get into trouble not knowing.

Welcome.

he speaks in rhymes

Themilum is too kind, bluefruitbowl, as most others are as well. He means I speak in rhymes without reason. Others speak more reason and less rhyme -- which means you will always have reason to visit here, if not rhyme and reason both.

Welcome, bluefruitbowl. I have a yellowfruitbowl I made that sits on my kitchen counter. I fill it with lemons from my own lemon tree. Please come back and play with us some more. I see from your profile your name is Mia. Odds are you are of the female persuasion. Please tell themilum so he doesn't get too embarassed.

heehee. i am indeed female. this place is fun.

puto te esse stultum

So, how did the Hebrew "Hawwah" mutate in English to "Eve"?

You do? But we've hardly met.


Stultus est licut stultus facit.

Edit for non-Latiners: "Stupid is as stupid does."

no. i kid. although, am i correct in assuming that you are female? if so, then it can't apply to you.

puto te esse stultum

Putting aside the fact that in this particular forum signatures are marginally less welcome than Michael Moore at a Bush family reunion, the choice of an insulting tagline deliberately obscured in Latin does raise intersting questions about the user's notion of courteous social intercourse.

it does seem that everyone is marginally offended by my signatures or puzzled. im sorry, and i have removed it, for what its worth.

You might want to check your declensions before you post something in Latin, bluefruitbowl, especially if it looks like an insult! You're dealing with a group, some of whom, marginally at least, know Latin.

Ave, et die dulci fruere!

PS Yes, I am female, if my bio-page is to be believed.

check my declensions? te is accusative, stultum is masculine and neuter accusative. or am i confused?

I also had thought that it should be nominative but on reconsideration I'm thinking that accusative *is correct. It's the old accusative subject with infinitive verb thang that the Romans were so fond of and us poor case-unconscious Anglophones have total lost track of. And as far as Fools go, around here I'm the head Fool.

And as far as Fools go, around here I'm the head Fool. - Faldage

Not true, bluefruitbowl, Faldage accentuates to be the biggest fool here but he is actually only occasionally. Most often Faldage is a rare sage of devious device and a wit beyond belief.
As sure as my name is John Lee Hooker.

Yours truly,
John Lee Hooker

"Time Magazine stated that "John Lee Hooker doesn't just sing the blues, and he doesn't just play the blues...he is the blues"."

a wit beyond belief

That's not hawwah spell relief ;)

Better a witty fool than a foolish wit,
                                      --Quinapalus

"Say for example you were an anceint Hebrew Pharaoh like the Great Akhenaton - then you could spell 'releif' or 'beleif' or 'word-theif' hawwah ever you pleased and petty word-scholars would still dance about your door."
_____________________________________ - John Lee Quinapalus 1936

Say for example you are an ancient Hebrew Pharaoh like the Great Akhenaton - then you could spell 'releif'

If you were an ancient Egyptian Pharoah, you wouldn't get any relief until after you were dead, themilum. And even then you wouldn't like the likeness.

Sometimes I feel like I'm pitching in relief for ya. :)

Sometimes I feel like I'm pitching in relief for ya.

And don't think that I don't appreciate it, Plutarch, but it looks like a weak bullpen will keep us out of the play-offs again this year... Damn.

it looks like a weak bullpen will keep us out of the play-offs again this year...

We need to let the bulls in the pen out earlier, themilum, before the starter gets buried on the mound.

When the starter gets swamped by the score
It's too late for the bullpen to roar.