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Posted By: AnnaStrophic Great crossword puzzle clues - 02/18/04 02:29 PM
Anybody seen any recently (cryptic or "normal")? Sunday's NYT puzzle had this; I love it:

Four CD's = (3 letters)

Posted By: Faldage Re: Great crossword puzzle clues - 02/18/04 02:33 PM
Big fat smiley face cuz I got it with just what the lovely AnnaS has presented you with.

Well, I did have the rest of the puzzle surrounding it but I only cross-checked to confirm my answer

Posted By: shanks Autotrumpeting like crazy - 02/18/04 08:22 PM
Apparently I got it too. (PM'd ASp and found out.)

the sunshine "voice like a wind instrument" warrior

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Autotrumpeting like crazy - 02/18/04 08:34 PM
hehehe... yep, four correct answers so far. The above two, plus the Fallible Fiend and the lovely tsuwm.

I'll post the answer in a few days in case anyone is stymied.

Edit: Make that five: Jackie got it too.
Posted By: belMarduk Re: Autotrumpeting like crazy - 02/18/04 10:17 PM
Definitely stymied ASp.

I've never been able to do a cryptic crossword. I don't get it. I know I should just keep the thing until the next week so I can see what the answers are - and understand how it works, but I haven't remembered to do so when I get the Saturday paper.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: cdcdcdcd - 02/18/04 10:21 PM
hmmm.

seedy, seedy, seedy, seedy... huh. nope.
force D's... huh. nope.
foresty... huh. nope.

I'm stumped.

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: cdcdcdcd - 02/18/04 10:26 PM
Now that I know I'm not alone in my shame, I, too shall confess my ignorance. Pity it couldn't have been 50 instead of 4, that would have been easy.

Posted By: consuelo This one is easier - 02/19/04 12:40 AM
Also from NYT, but not Sunday's

mate's cry (4 letters)

Posted By: Jackie An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 02:26 AM
Tsk! Iran's abandoned ancient language (8)

Posted By: tsuwm Re: cdcdcdcd - 02/19/04 03:42 AM
4 CDs = ?

here's a further clue for max: as with the answer to "what's 6x9", you just have to know what base you're operating in.
(ducking for cover!)

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 10:16 AM
I got it, Jackie, but question its veracity. It's a different language group.

Still working on Connie's.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 10:26 AM
Connie's

is it in Yiddish?

Posted By: Jackie Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 02:03 PM
It's a different language group. Yeah, that might actually throw him off the track. This is one of those times you have to sacrifice the means for the end.

Posted By: shanks Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 05:25 PM
I thought they were from the same branch of the original sweetmeat. After all, the ancient Persians also had daivas and daimyas, except that the good and evil fellers were the other way around.

Or am I worng?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 05:42 PM
Well, if you go back far enough, you could say they're both from PII.

Posted By: shanks Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 06:05 PM
Zigackly. Ferpick!

Posted By: maahey Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/19/04 07:11 PM
I know I should just keep the thing until the next week so I can see what the answers are - and understand how it works

Bel, we could be soulmates! (except for Kwame)
Dare I ask what the answer is?

Posted By: tsuwm Re: This one is easier - 02/19/04 07:38 PM
>mate's cry (4 letters)

sure looks like: ahoy!
but that seems too easy..
-ron o.

Posted By: Faldage Re: This one is easier - 02/19/04 07:58 PM
That's what I woulda said, ron. But I think water is wet, so what do I know?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: This one is easier - 02/19/04 08:55 PM
Yebbut® Connie *did say it was easier. If that's it though, it's not "great."

Posted By: Faldage Re: This one is easier - 02/19/04 08:59 PM
Yeah. The thang with the 4 CDs is it's a whack yer head when you get it.

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: This one is easier - 02/19/04 09:42 PM
Well, if that's the case, please administer said whack to this particular head.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: pre-whack - 02/19/04 10:01 PM
OK, here you go:

4 x CD = ?

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: pre-whack - 02/19/04 10:13 PM
4 x CD=

1600?

Posted By: Faldage Re: pre-whack - 02/19/04 11:26 PM
1600=?

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: pre-whack - 02/19/04 11:38 PM
1600=?

Twice the number of functioning neurons I have at my disposal?


Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: whack - 02/20/04 12:16 AM
There are only three spaces in the answer, Max.

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: whack - 02/20/04 12:43 AM
>Only three spaces.

Indeed. I have in front of me the Chambers Official Scrabble Words - 3rd Edition and am going through its list of 3-letter words. So far I have got up to "G" and nothing has yet connected.

Posted By: consuelo Re: whack - 02/20/04 01:06 AM
Psssst, Max, yer roamin' in the wrong pasture. No, ahoy is not the answer, so pack up your Betsy.

Posted By: jheem Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/20/04 02:55 AM
Hmm, I seem to have come in late on this one. What's up?

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: whack - 02/20/04 09:33 AM


No, ahoy is not the answer


The only other thing I can think of is "I ache for the touch of your whips, dear," but that's more than four letters.

k


Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: whack - 02/20/04 10:25 AM
well, I thought ahoy(Yiddish- ah oy!)

but this CD thang... just not clickin'...

Posted By: Bingley Re: pre-whack - 02/20/04 11:03 AM
Well, if 4 CD's is 1600, presumably 1600 is MDC, which is the requisite 3 letters long but it doesn't mean anything to me.

One of my favourite crossword clue of all time (I think it's an Araucaria) is:

HIJKLMNO (5).

I may have mentioned to oldtimers before, in which case perhaps some of our newer members would like to have a go.

Bingley
Posted By: Faldage Re: HIJKLMNO - 02/20/04 12:13 PM
This came up on NPR's Sunday Weekend Edition puzzle a few weeks ago, but it was the answer, not the question. The question went into American history and the importance of a certain John Milk to the early days of Boston, MA.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: An easy cryptic; for jheem - 02/20/04 01:09 PM
Jheem, are you reading in threaded mode? Try flat mode for the context.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic MDC - 02/20/04 01:13 PM
it doesn't mean anything to me.

How so, Bingley? Your answer is correct.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Run-MDC - 02/20/04 01:18 PM
MDC

that's it? all that for MDC?

oy...



Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: whack - 02/20/04 03:15 PM

Ship ?
Land ?

Dear ?

k


Posted By: Jackie all that for MDC? - 02/20/04 04:17 PM
Yes. Part of the idea of cryptic crosswords is...well, I was going to say to be misleading, but in my opinion some of them cross over the line into deception. The clue was printed the way it was to make readers think "compact disc", but. Obviously there was another meaning, too.
A kind of clue that I rarely get are the homophones. Part of the clue may lead me to, for ex., fair. But the other part, which I usually only get after looking at the answer, would have told me I should have put fare.

EDTI: woops, my bad. Merci, Faldage.
Posted By: Faldage Re: all that for MDC? - 02/20/04 04:26 PM
For the record, the clue, 4 CD's, was in the regular NYT Sunday puzzle, not a cryptic. Annadage Inc. regrets any confusion that may have resulted from misinterpretations of the original post.

Not responsible for incidental damage.

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: all that for MDC? - 02/20/04 08:22 PM
Thanks for the clarification, Faldage. I was trying to find some hidden meaning, and wondering what on Terra MDC meant, in regard to CDs. I thank you for ending my futile search.

Posted By: consuelo Mate's cry - 02/20/04 09:06 PM
Do you want it now, or shall we give the latecomers until Sunday morning?

Posted By: Bingley Re: MDC - 02/21/04 01:26 AM
it doesn't mean anything to me.

AS: How so, Bingley? Your answer is correct.

Because like my honourable friend the member for NZ I was expecting a cryptic clue with some sort of connection between MDC and compact discs.

The mate's cry clue. Is it from a cryptic crossword or quick crossword?


Bingley
Posted By: consuelo Re: Mate's cry - 02/21/04 11:20 AM
It was from a regular crossword in the New York Times.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Mate's cry - 02/21/04 11:26 AM
Connie, maybe you could give us one of the four letters -- as if we had solved one clue that crosses it.

Posted By: consuelo Re: Mate's cry - 02/21/04 11:29 AM
Ends in "y"

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Mate scry - 02/21/04 12:21 PM
"y"
thanks oh so much.

Posted By: Bingley Re: Mate's cry - 02/21/04 12:47 PM
G'day -- on the grounds that Australian males are popularly supposed to greet each other with the cry g'day, mate.

Bingley
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Mate's cry - 02/21/04 01:03 PM
oy! clue removed because it was too obvious...


Posted By: musick Re: This one is easier - 02/21/04 05:31 PM
Also from NYT, but not Sunday's

mate's cry (4 letters)


I don't do much crosswording, but I've heard the "unwritten rule" which says that if the clue is abbreviated, then the answer will be... does this equation also *go for the use of an apostrophe?

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: This one is easier - 02/21/04 06:53 PM
apostrophe

lik'ly...

Posted By: Bingley Re: This one is easier - 02/22/04 06:40 AM
I would expect (1'3) for an answer with an apostrophe or (1-3) for a hyphenated answer. But I have no idea what the practice might be in a US publication.

Bingley
Posted By: consuelo Re: This one is easier - 02/22/04 09:06 PM
Bingley, the NYT crossword puzzles are just made for you, it appears. The answer to "mate's cry" is indeed "G'day"

Posted By: Bingley Re: This one is easier - 02/23/04 06:33 AM
In both cases my answers were wild guesses. It's why I prefer cryptics, I can check my answers from each part of the clue against each other.

Bingley
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Much of it is what you're used to - 02/23/04 12:55 PM
First, I'm sorry that my parenthetical qualifier in the opening post may have led some to believe the NYT clue was a cryptic.

USns are used to crosswords that address your knowledge ("Basball Hall of Famer," e.g.) and your ability to work out a theme (especially in the bigger Sunday puzzles); sometimes puns are used.

The Brit norm is the cryptic, which is more ecumenical in that any intelligent English speaker has a good chance of solving it knowing the skills involved.

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