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Posted By: carambola Machiavellian Causitry - 07/25/03 11:37 PM

In the early seventies John Diefenbaker ,Canada's

13th PM accused the Liberal Front Benches of Machiavellian

Causitry. This sent members of the Press Corps scampering

for their lexicons..sent me also but mine was archaic and

word causitry was missing . Never really got the full

import of the phrase and good old John passed away in 79.

Give the Carambola some imput .

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Machiavellian Causitry - 07/25/03 11:42 PM
a quick search of OneLook gave me this:

(in other words, it looks to have been a typo, or he mis-spoke...)


Quick definitions (Casuistry)

# noun: moral philosophy based on the application of general ethical principles to resolve moral dilemmas
# noun: argumentation that is specious or excessively subtle and intended to be misleading

Encyclopedia article

Casuistry is any attempt to determine the correct response to a moral problem, often a moral dilemma, by drawing conclusions based on parallels with agreed responses to pure cases, also called paradigms. Another common everyday meaning is "complex reasoning to justify moral laxity."

Posted By: wow Re: Machiavellian Causitry - 07/26/03 12:19 PM
"complex reasoning to justify moral laxity."

Yeah, there's a lot of that goin' around.



Posted By: wwh Re: Machiavellian Causitry - 07/26/03 12:28 PM
Machiavellian casuistry would be the art of using lies
skillfully to achieve political goals.

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: Machiavellian Causitry - 07/26/03 12:31 PM
>Machiavellian casuistry would be the art of using lies
skillfully to achieve political goals.

Or, more precisely, it would include doing so, since there is nothing in the term that rules out using it to describe casuistry employed to achieve goals other than political ones.

Posted By: musick Re: Machiavellian Causitry - 07/26/03 01:15 PM
"complex reasoning to justify moral laxity."

Yeah, there's a lot of that goin' around.

... and a lot of moral reasoning to justify simpletons.

Posted By: Capfka Re: Machiavellian Causitry - 08/05/03 03:40 PM
I don't believe that good ol' Niccolo ever said you have to lie. He only suggested that it was a perfectly valid thing to do ...

Posted By: maverick Re: Machiavellian Causitry - 08/05/03 10:39 PM
and besides, it was doubtless actually said by his press spokeman "in an off-the-record briefing"...

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