I'm creating a students' rights webpage offering practical (and sensible) advice about school councils, organising petitions, youth activities etc. but I'm stuck for a name, any suggestions would be greatly aprieciated, thanks!
Since when do students have rights? I never had any, so why should kids now have any?
How about anticurmudgeon.com? It doesn't seem to be taken.
wwh: Huh!
Faldage: Huh?
NOTE: Not helpful... I was thinking of some kinda acronym or something catchy. Oh yeah, perhaps
rights wasn't exactly the best term to use now since it's associated with all that radicalism and anarchism etc.
Oh, that was just a little apprentice curmudgeon's comment on Dr Bill's little rant.
"By tunket, we din't never have none o them fancy computer things when I was kid! I don' see why nobody should have them nowadays."
Talk about not living out your childhood dreams through your kids!
Ok, ok, I know your childhood dream may not have been giving advice to other's on how to change the school and you probably didn't go by the motto 'be heard or be herded', but.
How about Tubthumper?
tubthumper.com - discover the thrilling sport of bath-diving!
Don't tell me you don't know the song, ma petit chien.
be heard or be herded
something about "leadtheheard.com"?
>leadtheheard.com
Hey! That's a nice one!
Thanks!
Don't tell me you don't know the song
Song?
Ooh! I've always wondered what that song was called!
www.youthinc.com? (if it's not taken)
It's not taken. I like the double meaning.
Hmmm, I like that idea as well, I'll design a logo for each (leadtheheard and youthinc) and see which one comes out better.
Thanks!
Why "heard"? [slow on the uptake e]
Why "heard"?well, if you're getting heard, you're probably making a difference, so if you are leading the "heard", then you're probably making the most difference.
and now I realize you're probably talking about the word form, rather than the phrase in question, because as I look at the word "heard", it looks pretty bizarre...
Why "heard"?
be heard or be herded
Some interesting and clever suggestions so far. However, being a very straight forward thinker, I would not go looking for the info you wish to promulgate under those headings.
If I was a student and went on a search, I would tend to go straight for the most simple address ike "studentrights.com"
Prosaic but...
Perhaps, but rights just seems so much of a strong word for some reason - kinda associated with rather radical, 'let's bring down the system' sort of thinking... I dunno.
So you want to assert students' rights, but you don't want to upset anyone in the process? Hell, things have changed since I was at school ...
- Pfranz
students' rights webpage offering practical (and sensible) advice about school councils, organising petitions, youth activities etc
Um...I feel like I'm stating the obvious, but how about
studentgovernment.org ? Possibly abbreviating government?
don't want to upset anyone in the process
If one of the key aims involved is to get authorities to even think about trusting the opinions of young people, then to go about upsetting anyone would be counter-productive as it will just enforce some peoples' opinions that young people cannot be sensible, compromising and realistic, with thier campaigns lost in some rather idealitic dream.
The best way to be taken seriously is to be reasonable and inoffensive - especially where it's least expected!
The best way to be taken seriously is to be reasonable and inoffensive - especially where it's least expected!
Which just about sums up Saddam Hussein's approach to life, the universe and everything since the Gulf War. And look where that's got him!
- Pfranz
Ok, "rights" may sound a bit radical, I concede.
studentprerogatives.com ?
No. They prolly cain't spell that.
studentsallatsea.com ?
studentglossary.com ?
studenthelpathand.com ?
startingatcollege.com ?
wheretostartatcollege .com ?
studenthelp.com ?
Allaboutcollege.com ?
studenthelpline.com ?
collegehelpline.com ?
Allaboutcollege.com ?
wow:
Pfranz: Erk! How do I respond to that??
On the other hand, I'm not accused of war crimes and stockpiling weapons of mass destruction... I just want some teachers to listen to students a bit more!
I'm not accused of war crimes and stockpiling weapons of mass destruction...
How do you know you're not? You want to start a students' rights website, well the oldies are just going to assume you are a neo-Marxist in socialist's clothing. That's got to be worth at least three chemical warheads (filled with sulphur dioxide) and half a teaspoon of smelly plutonium carefully gathered from a cyclotron hidden up a camel's rectum.
You are a positive danger to society, and you ought to be locked away.
I dunno what the world's coming to, I really don't. What is all this crap about students having rights anyway? They have wrongs, and even those are doled out with care, only to the most deserving cases, preferably to those students who are quadraplegics.
Bet you turn up to classes, too. Now there's something that's highly suspicious!
- Pfranz
Like I said:
Erk! How do I respond to that??
Though like the other thing I said, 'rights' wasn't the the best word, I know that a school can never be a democracy - it wouldn't work, but... well, they can't ignore us!! I mean, I sometimes feel that students are a bit more capable of independant thought than some people give credit for. Anyway, part of the reason there is so much voter apathy seems to be the loss of faith among young people that their ideas can make a difference.
little doggette,
don't pay Pfranz no mind. He's an apprentice curmudgeon.
studentsorg.org
stewdensewrite.net
ipaythereforeithink.com
seems to be the loss of faith among young people that their ideas can make a difference.
It's taken a long time and a lot of effort, but finally we're getting somewhere. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
- Pfranz
don't pay Pfranz no mind. He's an apprentice curmudgeon.
Well, so would you be if you'd lost carpal tunnel status to a mixup over noms-de-plume!
- Pfranz
lost carpal tunnel status
You mean there's a cure???
No offense bonzaialsatian, but don'tcha think that your other peers would sooner visit an anti-establishment site like...
jazzrumblers.orgor
deathtofalsemetal.comYou could then give them your unhip messages about pratical matters after you've got them hooked.
You mean there's a cure???
Naw, it's like docs everywhere do: It's relabelled as something else, and that turns out to be incurable instead. Such as the move from RSI to OOS. Sounds better, I guess. And the original stops turning up in the "We dunno how to fix that" stats.
- Pfranz
You could then give them your unhip messages about pratical matters after you've got them hooked.
I haven't actually seen any sites with practical, more workable advice on the students' rights/freedom/speakandbeheard/tryingtostayinoffensive issue - how'd I know it'd work or not 'till it's been tried? Anyway, it seems like a lot the people who go on the really extremist-seeming sites are either not really serious about change and just wanna seem cool, or have an interesting record of teacher assault and exclusions. (Note I didn't say all)
Well, thanks for sharing your opinion, I think! He asked for a name suggestion, not how you felt. You could have at least given him a name. Just because you didn't have students' rights, that doesn't mean the rest of us were without them. It's good to use your brain occassionaly. You should try it.
Okay, sorry that I just flew off the handle about the whole rights thing. I'm just a very opinionated person and I tend just to say things before thinking. Anyway, here's another question for all of you. Since we have been discussing rights, what do you all think about the right of religion? I know you all have to have some thoughts, let me hear them.
the right of religionhttp://snurl.com/p8k
I'm just a very opinionated person and I tend just to say things before thinking. I am reminded of what Anne Shirley said about a neighbor who didn't think before she criticized; it was something like, "How would it be if I went around sticking pins into people, then excused it by saying I'm sorry--that's just the way I am".
By way of a bit of education, my dear--oops, first let me say that I am glad that you felt you could join in. There are a number who are very timid about that. This is primarily a language-discussion board. As time has gone on, we have developed something of a family feeling towards one another, and have come to some understandings, some the easy way, others not. One of the understandings was that we would try to avoid starting non-word threads, but if we just couldn't help ourselves, we would try to put them in Miscellany. I believe that our little puppy dog was asking for help from friends, which all of us are generally happy to provide. Sometimes, hearing other peoples' opinions can affect one's own.
Another understanding we have come to is that we try to avoid potentially fraught discussions; politics and religion being prime candidates. For what it's worth, we seem to have "read between the lines" that, re: religion, we seem to have agreed "to each his own".
I expect you may have gone through school being smarter than everyone else. You may not find that to be so, here. If that turns out to be the case, it will become apparent, in time. You did not ask for my opinion, but I am going to put it anyway: to me, your screen name is pretty much the equivalent of announcing to people at the outset that you believe they are inferior to you. You might want to give some consideration to what effect that might have on people, in how they will relate to you, both here and in real life.
You put it in better words than I could ever have done, thanks Jackie!
Though, when posting this thread, my main intention had been to get name suggestions for my webpage (which I
did get a lot of), I was also aware that many peolple have many varying opinions on this issue, and given the wide range of proffesions, backgrounds and experiences of the members of this board, I was also interested to hear about the ideas of others as I am aware that, however strongly I feel about an issue, my ideas are not absolute and so should always be open to debate, critisism and advice.
I know what it is like to feel strongly about, and fight for an issue, yet the whole time I have to think about
am I doing the right thing? Am I going too far? Just because it may be frustrating that people don't agree with you doesn't mean that they are not as justified as you in stating thier opinions - if we can't listen to everybody's ideas and make compromises, nothing can ever be changed.
P.S: I am a '
her'.
Well, I had planned to edit in a P.S. to my post above, but I see that I got back here too late. So--re: "You might want to give some consideration to what effect that might have on people, in how they will relate to you, both here and in real life.", I should have added that I wish that someone had made that suggestion to me two decades ago. I must have the most understanding and accepting friends on earth, is all I can say.
bonzai, as a fellow student, I like the two early suggestions "leadtheheard" and "youthinc" most. No one really looks for websites just by typing them in, they google for them, so there's absolutely no reason to go with a bland, straightforward name. (Who would assume that monster.com is for jobs or that amazon.com is for books?) We young folks prefer creative names. (It's all part of the trend of young professionals prefering to live in a place with exicting culture than one with lower taxes.)
If you need any help with content etc, I'd me more than willing to assist. I've become a very active member in my school's chapter of the American Institute of Architecture Students, which has recently assumed a leading role in engaging students in faculty and administrative decisions.
>Okay, sorry that I just flew off the handle…
if you're truly having second thoughts about something you posted, it is possible to delete the post.
-ron obvious
(It's all part of the trend of young professionals prefering to live in a place with exicting culture than one with lower taxes.)JazzO - It kinda defies the definition of "trend" when it's happening for so long... ask Thorstein Velben about "conspicuous consumption".
http://spartan.ac.brocku.ca/~lward/Veblen/veblen_02_toc.html
I like the two early suggestions "leadtheheard" and "youthinc" most.Yep, I'm more-or-less definitley going with the 'Lead the Heard' idea - I've already designed a logo for it:
http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/bonzaialsatian/lth.htmlI haven't had much time to do anything to the page yet, what with exam pressures and my own school campaign and stuff, but will soon.
my own school campaign Ooh! Hope you win, Honey!
going with the 'Lead the Heard' ideacool! good choice!
good luck with the cam-pain...
to me, your screen name is pretty much the equivalent of announcing to people at the outset that you believe they are inferior to you. You might want to give some consideration to what effect that might have on people, in how they will relate to you, both here and in real life.
Especially when it must be evident that the person who was so kind as to create this forum and A.W.A.D. for us is named Anu.
smarterthanu -- th/anu...just a coincidence, I would hope.
Okay, to be entirely honest. I have never been to these kinds of websites before. I just joined because I thought that it would be neat to do something like this. I picked the name from 'out of the blue'. I had no intention of causing contention or anything to that regard. I just merely liked the name. I do not know how to delete my previous posts, or I would. Anyways, I just want to ask if anyone knows the meaning of the word bipennis. DO NOT think that it's something perverted or gross. When I first discovered the meaning, I was shocked. What about you all?
Ps: Most of you are apparently older than I. I'm just a sophmore in college studying to be a teacher. So, sorry about touching on your "family feelings".
Well, S-T-U, I'll tell you. We've had some bad brushes here and we are somewhat touchy now. If you'd like to participate, I'm sure we'd love to have you. One thing we usually recommend to strangers is that they read some of the older threads and read the newer ones, too, until you get a feel for the place.
If you click on this link, it should take you to a thread where you will find other links to threads that we enjoyed and chose as our favorites. We know it is impossible to read all the threads here, many of us have tried and failed!
Well, here's the link:
http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=wordplay&Number=39205Edit We have members here from all age groups from teens through the 80's. Most of us might be older than you, but we really don't care much about age here. Enjoy!
So, sorry about touching on your "family feelings". Yes. Bipennis is a good word, if you ax me. I do like a bit of Greek etymology. Hey, how 'bout you change your handle and come in again after you've learned how to deign to interact with us humble mortals?
I never made the Anu connection with smarterthanu name. I thought it was a clever play with:
Smarter Than You.
And I figured if smarterthanu thought she was smarterthanI, then so be it. Lots of people are. Big deal.
I have never been to these kinds of websites before. This was the first experience for several of us, too.
I just joined because I thought that it would be neat to do something like this. It is!
I picked the name from 'out of the blue'. I had no intention of causing contention or anything to that regard. I just merely liked the name. I do not know how to delete my previous posts, or I would. That's all right, Honey. We understand now where you're coming from, and we're glad to have you.
I personally don't think it's necessary for you to delete your posts, but if you want to know how anyway, feel free to send me or 'most anyone a PM.
Your bipennis word is very interesting! I had a heck of a time even finding a def. The pennis part reminds me of pinnate; can one of you experts tell me if there's a connection?
pennis part reminds me of pinnate
There is, indeed, a connection. While the normal definition of the term refers to a double-bladed ax, it's sort of payback for the use of gladiolus as a flower name. The roots are two (bi) and feather (penna) and it refers to something having two feather-like edges. The lovely ASp probably had the labrys (which its own self may beg some payback) in mind when she alluded to the Greek etymology.