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Posted By: sjm 2001: Which came first - 12/18/02 09:06 AM
In a newsgroup discussion on Helen Clark's comments about LoTR (book vs. movie) someone just said that 2001: A Space Odyssey the book came after the movie. Can anyone authoritatively confirm or deny this?

Posted By: Bingley Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/18/02 10:56 AM
If I remember rightly, first there was Arthur C. Clarke's short story, which I think was called "The Sentinel", and then Clarke's work on the film and the novel overlapped somewhat, but the film actually came out first.

Bingley
Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/18/02 12:29 PM
And legend has it that Clarke knocked out the novel during a furious 2 week caffeine spree in a room at the celebrated Chelsea Hotel on W. 23rd St. in New York City where, for those two weeks, folks who knew him said he pretty much lived on coffee and cigarettes.

Posted By: Jackie Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/18/02 12:33 PM

Among Clarke's best known work is the short story THE SENTINEL (1951) about man's contact with sentient life. In the spring of 1964, Clarke retired to Hotel Chelsea in New York and started to write a novel about a space travel. His illustrious acquaintances during this period included Arhur Miller, Andy Warhol, Allen Ginsberg, and Norman Mailer. Clarke's work became the basis of the novel and film 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968), for which Clarke wrote the script with Stanley Kubrick.

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/aclarke.htm

Posted By: sjm Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/18/02 11:23 PM
Thanks to you all for that carificaton.

Posted By: wwh Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/19/02 12:22 AM
I have trouble regarding Allan Ginsburg as an "illustrious" influence on Arthur Clarke. I still
chuckle at salutation he got from a highly regarded English Dame, whose name I have
forgotten. Her first words to him were "My, you do smell."

Posted By: Jackie Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/19/02 01:55 AM
sjm, I carify for you all over the place!

Posted By: milum Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/19/02 06:20 PM
If memory serves (and it always has) the confusion might stem from Clarke's 1973 story, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA which itself was inspired by the storyline of the film 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, the 1968 collaboration of Clarke and Kubrick.

(Please don't correct me if I'm wrong, I'm happy as I exist)

Posted By: sjm Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/19/02 07:45 PM
If memory serves (and it always has) the confusion might stem from Clarke's 1973 story, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA which itself was inspired by the storyline of the film 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, the 1968 collaboration of Clarke and Kubrick.

That seems eminently likely. Thanks.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: 2001: Which came first - 12/19/02 09:07 PM
sjm>A Space Odyssey the book came after the movie. Can anyone authoritatively confirm or deny this?

I don't know if you were satisfied on this point, but Clute and Nicholls' Encyclopedia of Science Fiction confirms the sequence of short story (The Sentinel), the movie script (with Kubrick), and lastly the novelization.

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