I have been using "environidiot" to relate to folks that use extreme measure to protect our environment without any
real knowledge on their part.
I have used it to letter to congress and newspaper editorial
pages without any bad feed back.
What do you folks think?
Thank you,
TomC
good word, though I would use it for those who use, (read:
destroy) the environment for their own gain, without care for the ramifications of that destruction.
(maybe our politics are showing?
)
welcome to the board, Tom!
Hi Tom,
Well, following on from a recent discussion about people who talk beyond their level of knowledge -
http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=83749- I think your word should be something like
environultracrepidarian. But it has to be said that
environidiot rolls off the tongue better.
Eta's agent of destruction could be distinguished by being called an
environdetrimentalist.
I quite like the internal rhyme of
environmoron as yet another alternative...
There's probably quite a bit of scope for types of idiot.
You could have a
vidiot, someone who always believes what they see on TV, for instance.
yes, i think the word could be a double edged sword.. who is the environidiot?
those who believe in clear cutting forests? (clearing 1000 year old trees, and claiming the woods will return? which i suppose is true if i am willing to wait a 1000 years, and maybe not true, since in the meanwhile, many of the animal and plants that relied on the resourses of the forest have long since died off, since there natural place to live had been destroyed) or
Tree huggers who destroy family business by putting an end to local logging, since the logging industry want to destroy the last few stand of 1000 year old forest (those small companies, the local sawmill, and other small local businesses that are dependent on the logging industry, aren't really going to be saved, thy are just going to last a few more years, till all the local lumber has been harvested, and even it it takes 20 years, the new forests (20 year old) forest aren't going to be what keeps them open, since the logger will have moved onto another community, that still has some 1000 year old forest left.
which is the idiot? I personally am of the tree hugger clan, and see the good and bad.. i support keeping a natural areas wild-- such as nearby, where there is a beautiful salt water marsh, on Long island north shore.. it is home to osprey and mallard, cormorants, egrets, raccoons, oppossum and a host of other wild life..
it is also the place where west nile virus got a start and stronghold in US (the first cases were all in the Bayside area of Eastern Queens, all less than a mile from the bay. West nile destroyed many local birds before becoming a human problem-- the water birds seem to resist the disease, but we have lost 90% of the crow/raven population)
so should we "improve" the last salt water marsh left on Long Islands North shore? it could be argueed it would help in the fight against West Nile. but this is one of the few places left on Long Island that still has a population of horse shoe crabs nesting..(an almost prehistoric creature, unchanges since before the last ice age.)
I happen to be all in favor of the salt water mash. (i also happen to be a little less wealthy, and don't live close enough to it to claim "water" views..and as a result, don't live close enough to it to suffer as much from mosquitos.. )
There are indeed fanatics about the environment. But the ones who put spikes into trees
hoping to injure loggers as well as destroy chainsaws are more vicious than idiotic.
The people who want to save mosquito breeding swamps that might become sources
of malaria are envonidiots.
how about environopolist? someone who wants to pave over all wild areas to put up more shopping malls and industries...
Bill: you're right about the spikes; a stupid way to make a point.
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/1380/pave.htmlBrilliant link, boronia.
And I must find out more about the Chrome the Moon splinter group.
that's great fun!
I especially like the Plan™...
Who's this environopolist? Joni Mitchell?
I especially like the Plan™...
IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE PLAN
And then came the Assumptions
And the Assumptions were without Substance
And Darkness was upon the Face of the Workers
And they spake amongst themselves, saying
“It is a Crock of Shit and it Stinks”
And the Workers went unto their Supervisors and said
“It is a Pail of Dung and none may abide the Odor thereof”
And the Supervisors went unto their Managers and said unto them
“It is a container of Excrement and it is very Strong
such that none may abide it”
And the Managers went unto their Vice-Presidents and said
“It is a Vessel of Fertilizer and none may abide its strength”
And the Vice-Presidents spake among themselves saying one to another
“It contains that which aids Plant Growth and it is very strong”
And the Vice-Presidents went unto the President and said unto him
“It promotes Growth and it is very powerful”
And the President went unto the Board of Trustees and said unto them
“This new Plan will promote the Growth and Efficiency of this Company
and in these Areas in particular”
And the Board of Trustees looked upon the Plan
And they saw that it had had Input From All Levels
And they agreed that it was Good
AND THE PLAN WAS IMPLEMENTED
AND THE PLAN WAS IMPLEMENTEDI heard the last line as:
This is how Shit Happens.
Who's this environopolist? Joni Mitchell?Yeah, planting big Yellow Taxi Trees everywhere.
Bloody hippies.
I heard the last line as:
This is how Shit Happens.
Me, too. I just cleaned it up for general audiences.
Ahem. Pezcyclando, the song was meant to point out what the antienvironidiots were doing, not a recommendation to pave
In reply to:
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
Big Yellow Taxi-Joni Mitchell
Bloody hippies indeed!
Yeahbut® she drives an SUV. I know it's true, I heard it on NPR.
King Lothar, exiled king of Romania, is known throughout the western world as a great philanthropist. He recently played in a worldwide-charity golfing event in which eight-person teams would compete at various golf courses, with their scores compared via satellite. The King and his team were in first place, coming in at one over par. But their hopes for the championship were dashed by the team playing at the Pair of Dice Casino's course; as was reported to the king via cell phone, "They played Pair of Dice and put up a par, King Lot."