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Posted By: jimthedog constitutional debates - 06/05/01 09:20 AM
I propose that we take matters in our own hands and write a constitution for the world. I shall be chairman.

jimthedog
Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: constitutional debates - 06/05/01 09:59 AM
Ah, megalomania in one so young. And I thought that the current generation didn't care about anything!

Posted By: rodward Re: constitutional debates - 06/05/01 10:00 AM
write a constitution for the world

Some guidelines:
1) The constitution must only be passed by e-mail or by word of mouth. This is World Environment Day after all. The official version should be the spoken version. The Chinese Whisper effect and homophones should keep the lawyers busy and off our backs for ages. (After all if the US Constitution was oral, you'ld be able to claim that you were entitled to bare arms and solve a lot of problems.)
2) Some suitable official language has to be chosen which is equi-disadvantageous to all world communities (Is there an ideographic form of Klingon?)
3) There shall be an introduction and a maximum of 10 articles of no more than 100 words each. You have to choose which existing article to drop for each new one after 10.

Unfortunately, I have the feeling that after the motherhood statements deprecating war and famine, and encouraging general virtues, any practical statements would raise a lot of heat amongst us. I can't even think of one at the moment .

Rod

Posted By: jimthedog Re: constitutional debates - 06/05/01 10:18 AM
megalomania in one so young.
Well, I wasn't proposing to be the 1st president, or whatever the office shall be called. And we would naturally argue. We're seeing which plans get in the constitution. Interesting thing to put on our resumes, anyway.

jimthedog
Posted By: belligerentyouth Re: constitutional debates - 06/05/01 12:41 PM
> ...the current generation didn't care about anything!

I'd debate with you furiously C.K., but I really couldn't care less.

p.s. this month's meeting of The Apathy Society has been cancelled.

Posted By: Faldage Re: constitutional debates - 06/05/01 12:50 PM
Sr. Ward notes: if the US Constitution was oral, you'ld be able to claim that you were entitled to bare arms and solve a lot of problems.

I already claim that the right to bear arms, written into the constitution, is actually® the right, in the inaccurate terminology of US'ns, to have a coat of arms. The connection with the well-regulated (Hi E) militia is obvious. You can't have a well-regulated militia without knowing who is available and what better way to know who is available than to have a registry of arms and armigers. This would be known as the NRA (National Registry of Armigers).

Posted By: jimthedog Re: constitutional debates - 06/05/01 11:39 PM
Some suitable official language has to be chosen which is equi-disadvantageous to all world communities (Is there an ideographic form of Klingon?)
I could make a language. (See my profile.)

jimthedog
Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: constitutional debates - 06/05/01 11:53 PM
And in order to avoid the vagaries of the 2nd Amendment and the Separation of Church and State controversies I propose a Bill of Rights that is meticulously clarified by a contrasting Bill of Wrongs!

Posted By: kummini Re: constitutional debates - 06/06/01 04:48 AM
rodward wrote:

Some guidelines:
1) The constitution must only be passed by e-mail or by word of mouth. This is World Environment Day after all. The official version
should be the spoken version.


It should come with the General Public License, that you have the right to modify the source and redistribute it free of cost.

If one were to make amendments on this constitution, what should one do? Shall all the people in the world meet at a place and agree to introduce new statutes?

Sir Humphrey Appleby will have had foreseen this problem around 2025, if I remember right, and gave the solution that every decision should be minuted. He spake thusly, in around 2025, while addressing Right Honorable James Hacker,

"It is characteristic of all committee discussions and decisions that
every member has a vivid recollection of them, and that every member's
recollection of them differs violently from every other member's
recollection; consequently we accept the convention that the official
decisions are those and only those which have been officially recorded in
the minutes by the officials; from which it emerges with elegant
inevitability, that any decision which has been officially reached would
have been officially recorded in the minutes by the officials, and any
decisions which is not recorded in the minutes by the officials has not
been officially reached, even if one or more members believe they can
recollect it; so in this particular case, if the decision would have been
officially reached, it would have been recorded in the minutes by the
officials and it isn't so it wasn't."

In that case, we'll have the constitution written down completely as minutes of meetings.

Regards,
Manoj.


Bangalore India
12°58' N, 77°39' E

http://www.geocities.com/kummini/index.html
Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: constitutional debates - 06/06/01 09:14 AM
p.s. this month's meeting of The Apathy Society has been cancelled.

Oh, yes, I remembered seeing that somewhere. Couldn't be bothered passing the message on.

Posted By: maverick Re: constitutional debates - 06/06/01 11:32 AM
No, the notice referred to last month's meeting - the secretary just hadn't bothered to put it up in time.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Apathy Club - 06/06/01 01:57 PM
I'd be surprised anyone bothered to join, but

Posted By: of troy Re: Apathy Club - 06/06/01 04:15 PM
well, i meant to, and one of these days...

Posted By: wow Re: Apathy Club - 06/06/01 04:29 PM
Huh ?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Apathy Club - 06/06/01 04:52 PM
Yeah, yeah, I know. Maybe right after I join the Procrastinator's Club.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Apathy Club - 06/06/01 06:53 PM
I seem to recall that someone created a membership list once, but they kinda threw her out for not being apathetic enough. Or maybe they didn't, and I can't be bothered trying to find out.

Posted By: nikeblack Re: Apathy Club - 06/06/01 07:31 PM
What would the Procrastinators' Apathy Club look like?
Or, the Apathic Procrastinators Club, with members who don't care if they show up tomorrow or next month....



Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Apathy Club - 06/06/01 11:55 PM
I'd care if I could.

Posted By: rodward Re: Apathy Club - 06/07/01 09:19 AM
Maybe right after I join the procrastinator's Club

I was put off joining that club
Rod
PS what is the word that means mañana, but without the same sense of urgency?

Posted By: nancyk Re: Apathy Club - 06/07/01 04:58 PM
the word that means mañana, but without the same sense of urgency

"eventually" ?

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