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Posted By: AnnaStrophic Odd Press redux - 05/03/01 04:03 PM
I think it's "time" to revive this thread. [edit: since the first one was getting too long, which was the point of starting a second one]

This week:

Time cover: "Alcohol and the Brain"
Newsweek cover: "God and the Brain"

If you meld the two editorial boards, do you get Pravda?*

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*Faldage, you (or any other Russian-knowers I'm unaware of [sic]) win a prize if:
a. You can spell it in Cyrillic;
2. AWAD software recognizes said Cyrillic;
thorn. Mister Mac doesn't crash upon trying to interpret.


Posted By: Faldage Re: Odd Press redux - 05/03/01 04:14 PM
Pravda = npaBga

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Odd Press redux - 05/05/01 10:52 AM
It's impressive to see that the above post on cover stories, both current this week, met with such interest here that it struck my fellow AWADers dumb. I must admit to a factual error, however: the second cover is not that of Time, but rather of US News and World Report. They all start looking alike to me after a while, especially after this week.


Faldage, you win by default, even though that looks like faux Russian to me.

Posted By: Geoff Re: Odd Press redux - 05/05/01 08:22 PM
Time cover: "Alcohol and the Brain"
Newsweek cover: "God and the Brain"


Ah, a couple of spirited discussions!

Some years ago there was an ad for a Las Vegas excursion in my local rag, the Portland Oregonian, which read, "Gambler's fly free." What, a gold-plated zipper?

Posted By: wow Re: Odd Press redux - 05/06/01 04:31 PM
"Gambler's fly free." What, a gold-plated zipper?

Or, Geoff, just gambling on the results of having an open one?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Odd Press redux - 05/07/01 11:06 AM
Miss AnnaS admits that I win by default, even though that looks like faux Russian to her.

It's the real thang, honeybunch! Less'n you count the odd size of the B.

Posted By: inselpeter Talk of Progress - 07/12/01 03:05 AM
From the July 10 edition of The New York Post

"It sounds like Mr. Ferrer is stuck in reverse on an expressway to the past," said Giuliani spokeswoman Sunny Mindel.

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 07/12/01 03:18 AM


Posted By: maverick Re: Talk of Progress - 07/12/01 03:20 AM
...which if ah calculates them negatives aright, means Back to the Future (part 53)

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Talk of Progress - 07/12/01 11:22 AM
"It sounds like Mr. Ferrer is stuck in reverse on an expressway to the past,"
No, no - if Mr Ferrer is "stuck," he ain't agoing no-where. The "reverse" reference is, surely, to his preferred or potential direction, not his actual progress, which is zilch.


Posted By: Faldage Re: Talk of Progress - 07/12/01 12:21 PM
if Mr Ferrer is "stuck," he ain't agoing no-where

I must respectfully disagree with Rhuby regarding being stuck in reverse. The onliest question I see is whether this is a logical double negative or an emphatic double negative. I must stand up firmly in favor of the former. Being stuck in reverse on an expressway that's going in the opposite direction to the direction you wish to go will get you where you want to be, albeit not as fast as you might wish due to the low gear ratio normally found in a reverse gear (Thelema and Louise notwithstanding)

Posted By: maverick Re: Talk of Progress - 07/12/01 06:15 PM
yeahbut!

when did you last try reversing down an expressway? That surely leads only to the morgue, whatever the heading of the road

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Talk of Progress - 07/12/01 06:23 PM
Good point, Mav.

my theory is that, given the danger you mention of attempting to backpedal, if you find yourself heading the wrong direction, you might as well just sit back, relax and enjoy the scenery. there'll be an offramp a ways down the road anyhow, and heck... by that time, you may have rethought your destination. =)

Posted By: of troy Re: Talk of Progress - 07/12/01 07:01 PM
and since Mr. Ferraro's bid for Mayor seems to be dead in to be water...I guess he is on the way to the morgue.

Posted By: inselpeter Re: Odd Press redux - 07/22/01 10:52 PM
From the front page of today's The New York Times:

"Despite High Hopes, Drug Plan May Be Disappointing To Elderly"


I will part with custom and explain myself. This headline is noteworthy for two reasons:

First, the prosaic--it is because of their high hopes, and not in spite of them, that the elderly might be disappointed; and

Second, the newspaper editorializes when it seeks imbue the notion of hope with a potency that is, by nature, foreign to hope. That the hopes of its constituency should have the power directly to affect the policy of any politician is almost too much to wish, but the suggestion that hope should have any power whatever over the decision making of one without legal standing to occupy the office he displaces air in is brazen. By implying a causal relation, The Times legitimates the office of the pretendership and endorses the growth of tyranny.


Posted By: Fiberbabe High in the sky, apple pie hopes - 07/23/01 11:28 AM
"Despite High Hopes, Drug Plan May Be Disappointing To Elderly"

Huh. I read a drug pun into that...

And usually my mind is in a different gutter.

Posted By: Faldage Re: Disappoint(ing, ed) - 07/23/01 12:48 PM
Despite High Hopes, Drug Plan May Be Disappointing To Elderly"

it is because of their high hopes, and not in spite of them


Form, my good Rock Island.

The Drug Plan will be disappointing to the Elderly despite their High Hopes. Not the Elderly will be disappointed because... Their High Hopes were insufficient to sway the good graces of the Plan.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Disappoint(ing, ed) - 07/24/01 10:21 AM
I think the whole thing was written incorrectly. It should have read, as FB has implied, "their hopes of getting high".

Posted By: Bryan Hayward Re: Odd Press redux - 07/24/01 04:20 PM
Faldage has it right (though limitations of the software make it hard to do it completely correctly). A Cyrillic "p" does look like an "n" to English speakers, and an "r" looks like a "p" and a "d" looks like a "g". The only fudge was a "B" for a "v" - which actually looks like a scripted "b". A "b" looks like a backward "b".

As for the magazine covers, I know a man who converted to Christianity after having a vision. It didn't do any good to point out to him that plenty of people have visions during alcohol-induced dehydration, which is what he'd described as the circumstances surrounding his conversion experience. (shrug) People believe what they want to believe. Facts are so unfashionable.

Cheers,
Bryan

Posted By: rodward Centenary - 07/30/01 01:05 PM
Now don't whinge that no-one replies to your posts, caradea!
The UK Times July 21st reported on a paraplegic pilot having flown round the world. "The 30,000 mile journey round the world included the historic London-to-Sydney centenary air race. ..... The London-to-Sydney centenary race was held to celebrate the Great Air Race of 1919...."
??????
Rod

Posted By: inselpeter Re: Odd Press redux - 08/02/01 07:10 PM
"Pregnancy often comes more than once to the same woman, and in the general population, if man is to survive, it will always be with us."

--Justice Blackmun, 1973

"Daschle expresses qualms on cloning of humans"

--the The New York Times, 2001

Posted By: wwh Re: Odd Press redux - 08/02/01 07:39 PM
As usual, inselpeter, I have no idea what you are driving at. Blackmun and Daschle are apples and oranges.

The real reason all of us should have qualms about cloning humans, is that the animal clones who looked healthy at first, have in many cases died young, apparently with genetic problems. If eugenics is the motive for human cloning, there must be better ways of achieving it.

Posted By: inselpeter Re: Odd Press redux - 08/02/01 11:57 PM
<<as usual, IP, I have no idea what you're talking about...>>

Sigh. I didn't want to mention Daschle at all, and I only did so in order to make myself clear.

I noticed the headline and article in the Times, this morning. This afternoon, I was reading the Supreme Court opinion in Roe v. Wade. The first quotes Daschle, the second was written by Blackmun. The important thing was the years: 1973/2001. I simply find it astonishing that the subject of banning human cloning could appear outside science fiction. What a change! What a short time! Blackmun's certainty, upon which he bases a part of his reasoning, that pregnancy will always remain necessary to the survival of the species... . I realize this borders on an Empathy-style morass, but--I just find the fact of the headline itself remarkable.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Odd Press redux - 08/03/01 01:24 AM
Thank you for the fill-in, insel. When I read your post earlier, I was in a bit of a rush, and my mind failed to make the connection, plus I wouldn't have remembered Dashle anyway. Yes, it is an amazing difference, esp. considering the time-span! Golly, I wonder if the 21st. C will see as much change as did the 20th.? Will our grandchildren think nothing of picnicking on the moon? What I would love would be the super-power that Marianna gave me: instant teleportation. Man, I'd be visiting ALL of you-all!

Posted By: inselpeter Re: Odd Press redux - 08/03/01 08:05 AM
You may teleport yourself here instantly anytime you want, provided you leave the teleporter at home and stick around a while. :) Anytime at all.

Incidentally, I once read that the Star Trek writers came up with the teleporter in order to save the expense of building a landing vehicle on the set.

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Odd Press redux - 08/03/01 01:46 PM
-- and here was I, fondly thinking that teleport was the fortified drink that I sup whilst phoning my daughter after dinner! The things you learn on this board!

Posted By: wwh Re: Odd Press redux - 08/03/01 04:55 PM
And I was wondering if IP thought Daschle was upset by notion of the possibility of a mad female scientist proving males were unnecessary. Ghastly return of matriarchy.

Posted By: of troy Re: Odd Press redux - 08/03/01 05:17 PM
well scientist working in quantum physics have started to teleport molecles... and there is work being done to build the quatum computer-- which will be needed to build the teleporter for anything bigger than a grain of sand..

so who knows.. we might find that our grand-children are picnicing on the moon.. stranger things have come to pass.

Posted By: inselpeter Empathy redux - 08/09/01 09:54 AM
The virtual personalities won't pass the Turing test by 2010, though, meaning we won't be fooled into thinking that they're really human. But by 2030, it won't be feasible to differentiate between real and simulated people.

--Ray Kurzweil, (from his essay in PC Magazine)

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