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Posted By: AnnaStrophic "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/26/06 10:59 AM
Has anyone heard, or does anyone use, this expression, or a variation thereof? What does it mean? I understand it's used in a popular reggae song, but I'm looking for earlier citations or more widespread usage.
Posted By: Jackie Re: "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/26/06 11:59 AM
Here's what Google brings up--the sixth one mentions "classic":
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Posted By: Aramis Re: "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/26/06 12:21 PM
Partly from inference and in this context in a UC Berkeley News article, it appears to mean providing, perhaps unwittingly, for something ruthless or contemptible (not that snakes are).

"Our jobs (teaching journalism) seem to be to fatten frogs for the snakes," says Drummond, noting the young reporters being hired just out of school by "multi-national, money-making machines."
Posted By: Aramis Re: "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/26/06 01:03 PM
Another example that comes to mind especially of late is paying for the UN. That could fit what the phrase seems to mean.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/26/06 02:55 PM
~ v. [1950's] to prepare a victim (including oneself) for exploitation by a criminal or trickster-- Casdsell's Dict of Slang

It's a genuine neologism and for one, I'd appreciate any variations on this def--Thanks guys
Posted By: wsieber Re: "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/27/06 03:15 PM
Another example that comes to mind especially of late is paying for the UN. Could you please explain that a little more to me. I can't see the analogy/similarity with the journalists' school example, which makes eminent sense to me.
Posted By: Aramis Re: "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/27/06 06:05 PM
It does not fit the mould neatly but the idea is of providing a forum [within one's own borders, no less] for tirades from certain tin-plated dictators (these would be the fork-tongued serpents in this case). The sentiment is one of "This is not what we had in mind. Let's feed some NATO frogs instead."
Posted By: themilum Re: "fatten frogs for (deadly) snakes" - 09/29/06 10:15 PM
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Has anyone heard, or does anyone use, this expression, or a variation thereof? What does it mean? I understand it's used in a popular reggae song, but I'm looking for earlier citations or more widespread usage.




The phrase "fattening frogs for snakes" was endemic to the southern Culture of my childhood. My friend "Sonny Boy" Williamson gave the folk saying wider currency with his recording of the same name in 1957. The lyrics explain the meaning...

I found out my downfall in nineteen and thirty eight
Yeah man,
I found out my downfall back in nineteen thirty eight
(I started checking)
I'm telling all my friends I not fattenin' no more frogs for snakes.


Yes, here it is nineteen and fifty-seven and I got to correct all my mistakes
Yeah man, nineteen fifty seven and I gotta correct all of my mistakes
I'm telling all my friends including my wife I not fattenin' no more frogs for snakes.


In other words, keeping up a woman, for other men to use sexually.

I sang this song while Sonny Boy played his harmonica as we rode to a liquor store in the back seat of a '48 Dodge in 1957. Sonny Boy (what a guy) would phone me whenever he visited Birmingham.

Beautiful memories.

"Deadly" Snakes might be the name of a group that later recorded this "Sonny Boy" song.
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