at this juncture it should come as no surprise that to lant means to mingle ale with stale urine to make it (the ale, wofa, the ale) strong. I can't link to OED for you, so here's the next best thing:
http://members.aol.com/SMKRANZ/newsletters/march99/page4.html

by dint of a tie-break (three out of four votes were from players), Wordwind wins yet another round with her 'sluicegate' def'n. juan also collected four votes (two were from lurkers) for his somewhat related 'adding a pinch'. HM to consuelo for 'walking bent' , RC for 'dancing and frolicking' and ron o. for 'nitpicking' (two votes each).

the results were bunched up enough so I should be able to use all of the above as alternate answers for an appearance of the wwftd quiz, which I'll probably run next week. thanks to all.
-joe (hogmaster®) friday

.. and that is why i don't gamble in any way - i am always wrong while guessing ;P

Uh, Tsuwm, Hogmaster, sir...since I (unbelievably to me) also selected the correct definition as a player (the urine thing...really?...I just picked it because I had to give a point to whoever came up with it), doesn't that extra pointage put me over the top for the win? Just asking...

And thanks to all you chemistry buffs out there...especially Jackie!

Hadn't the hogmaster® proposed to run this round as a competition to glean definitions for a WWFTD quiz, which would seem to render other factors somewhat beside the point? Just sayin'....

It IS a surprise, tsuwm! My interest is certainly piqued! Went back and re-read the thread on definitions, and it strikes me in hindsight that many knew! Faldage talked about tasting A, WO'N about cellars and WW about lanter lauders...(aside)who is a lauder? A guzzler?

And WO'N, you have actually SEEN urine cellars! Now, here's a noisome experience, for sure!
How do they collect it, how do they store, who donates, are the donors paid, is there a screening system for the donors!!??? Forgive my barrage of questions but I am so completely tickled by this bit of news.

And is 'lant' both a noun and a verb?

maahey, I had no clue...I was just so amused with that definition I figured whoever wrote it deserved a vote for effort...really. I was just jokin' about the cellars an' all.

And, from tsuwm's link:

Urine "a barber's hair wash?" (lotium) Back in the days when nobody bathed? wunnerful...'cause musk, it ain't


And, okay, tsuwm...I'll take a win by proxy, then. Can't let my good friend Dub-Dub get away with a cheap victory there, can we?

>'lant' both a noun and a verb?

yes, lant is an old Saxon noun (ca. 1000) which got verbed around 1630. and my experience of ales makes this whole thing suspicions confirmed. in fact, some of the ones I've tasted must have been *double-lanted*. <g>

check out this 1630 citation:
1630 Tinker of Turvey Ded. Ep. 5, I have drunke double~lanted Ale, and single-lanted, but never gulped downe such Hypocrenian liquor in all my life.

p.s. - I think it was maverick who threw 'hippocrene' (the Hypo- is listed as "erron.") at us once upon a time. too bad he's not around to explain this allusive use to us.

p.p.s. - as somebody or else might say, proxy schmoxy..

Faldage talked about tasting A

I was simply recalling a metaphor from the long MIA xara who used to talk about the way phrases "tasted". Personally I thought the correct answer was one of the most unlikely, but then I thought pretty much the same about J and it garnered as many votes as the winner, so who am I to say?

so how does it go next? when the next occasion for wrong answers?? ;P i just can't wait :)

I think we should devise a rule next time that gives rav a point just for participating, given that this is a foreign language for him/her.

p.p.s. - as somebody or else might say, proxy schmoxy..

Okay, Hogmaster®® (there's two trademarks because I owed ya one from before ), that's fine...I'll take the win by proxy schmoxy then, whatever you say!

For the record, maahey:

I had no idea that lant was this urinated beverage. I was simply observing that the definition was disgusting and why I thought it was disgusting. Now that I have learned that definition was, in fact, the correct one, I am even more disgusted to consider that people drink urine in their ale!

But I offer here for the occasion of this lanted Hogwash round a poem that Keats recorded in a letter:

[Keats writes in explanation of the poem:]

"Horace Twiss dined the other day with Horace Smith--now Horace Twiss has an affectation of repeating extempore verses--which however he writes at home. After dinner Horace T. was to recite some verses, and before he did he went aside to pretend to make on the spot verses composed before hand. While H. T. was out of the Room H. S. wrote the following and handed it about, when H. Twiss had done his spouting."

[And now the poem:]

'What precious extempore verses are Twiss's
Which he makes ere he waters, and vows as he pisses,
'Twould puzzle the Sages of greece to unriddle
Which flows out the fastest his verse or his piddle,
And 'twould pose them as much to know whether or not
His Piss or his Poems go quickest to Pot![

WW, ; I must send this off to my dad, who is a BIG Keats fan. First, I struggle with believing in lant and now, I have to digest this Keats! I love it!

So then, who knows what about lanting wrt beer? Thank the Lords, I am a beer hater. Tastes like cardboard mixed with water, to me! [scurrying away before trumpets sound!)

In reply to:

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Thank the Lords, I am a beer hater.

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~maahey

I'm a beer hater, too, except for some recent ale Faldage showed me and that wasn't bad. But I don't expect I'll try anything along those lines ever again for fear that the ale's (or beer's) been lanted.

Keats: Keats quotes the poem in a letter. I'm not sure whether he was actually the author of the poem. Will have to go back and check my notes, maahey, but the letter, at least, is authentic Keats.

http://www.rc.umd.edu/editions/keats/letter/lewis.htm

So excited was I, by the thought of my father's discomfort on reading those lines, and so eager was I to wave them under his nose, that I dared to assume the great Keats was not above such humour. I cut and paste WW's post and dashed off a mail with maximum speed. Will now have to eat very humble crow. Serves me right, I suppose! [sigh]

tsuwm and WW, where do you find all these loverly things! I thoroughly enjoyed both posts. Thanks much. What struck me most about the letter was the quiet unassuming way in which he moved from H.Smith's lines to his own verse, with not so much as the smallest of critical comment to pass about the former.

I claim no special google talent (this time :) -- I merely plugged one line of the poem into the search box and was duly rewarded with one (1) hit.

Interesting that google gave you that hit, tsuwm, since I found the letter on another site. Wonder why google didn't pick up the other site, too?Never mind. I just checked out my research route and ended up at the same place you posted tsuwm. Guess I went around my cyber elbow to get to my cyber thumb.

In reply to:

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The Keats letter contains six lines by Keats's acquaintance Horace Smith, which Madden declared "very clever"

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So, Horace Smith is the poet in question here.

I thought some of y'all would be interested in reading a reply to the "lant quiz" that I received today from caradea, so here it is in its entirety:

ewww~wwww! =)

:-)

Thanks for sharing that, tsuwm. Glad to hear she's still ewwwwwwwww-ing. =)

=)

That little sign always reminds me of Dagwood. But then so do most things. Either that or Peanuts.

Yeah, you can always tell when she's pissed off ... er, on... no hang on, I mean in!

Did she say how things were with her?