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Posted By: Alex Williams scrubbed - 07/11/10 03:34 PM
It looks as if this round of hogwash shall have to be, um, scrubbed. I did a search for the word here and it turned up nothing, but I have gotten three and half PMs telling me it is too easy (the half being a submission of the correct definition as a foil). I'd never encountered the word before this weekend but apparently it's on everyone's lips. I will dig up a new word.



Posted By: Jackie Re: Hogwash, I say - 07/12/10 02:54 AM
Um, Alex? I've known this one for ages; so possibly others do, too. But if not, maybe I'll try a fooler.
Posted By: olly Re: Hogwash, I say - 07/12/10 03:47 AM
I'm up for it!
Posted By: BranShea Re: Hogwash, I say - 07/12/10 09:03 AM
Me too.
Posted By: Alex Williams Re: Hogwash, I say - 07/12/10 11:42 AM
See the edit to the original post, above.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: scrubbed - 07/12/10 01:57 PM
>I did a search for the word here and it turned up nothing..

OneLook finds 15 dictionaries with English definitions that include the word flivver; never a good sign.
Posted By: Alex Williams Re: scrubbed - 07/12/10 03:44 PM
In general I wouldn't think that inclusion in a dictionary is reason to exclude a word from hogwash. (In fact inclusion in a dictionary seems like a necessary requirement.) But if it was a former Word of the Day or of other such distinction I would not consider it.

Honestly I am surprised that flivver is considered such an easy word! I'm reasonably well read and had never seen it in print until this weekend, and never once have I heard it uttered in person.

Never fear, we shall find a piglet that needs a bath.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: scrubbed - 07/12/10 06:54 PM
the OneLook Count for a word (discussed here before, but I can't be arsed to look it up at this time) seems to be a measure of its obscurity, ergo the likelihood of widespread use. some recent entries had the following OLCs: nisgul,1; eonism, 11; underfong, 9 (gafty had no hits, but that's soon to change {g})
Posted By: olly Re: scrubbed - 07/12/10 09:22 PM
Well Flivver me timbers!
Is it an americanism? I've never heard or seen it.
Posted By: Faldage Re: scrubbed - 07/12/10 10:30 PM
I think it is an Americanism and it's pretty old. Some of us encountered it in our youth and that mostly from old-timers.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: scrubbed - 07/12/10 10:50 PM
or movies.
Posted By: Jackie Re: scrubbed - 07/13/10 02:26 AM
Looking forward to the substitution, Alex--thanks!
Posted By: BranShea Re: scrubbed - 07/17/10 05:29 PM
Where did Alex Williams go? Left the pig dangling in the tub?
Posted By: Jackie Re: scrubbed - 07/19/10 03:17 AM
laugh
Yeah, he hasn't answered my PM, either. But he is a busy man. Or maybe he's gone into aestivation.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: scrubbed - 07/19/10 04:59 PM

aestivation certainly is the word of the week !!
Posted By: Jackie Re: scrubbed - 07/20/10 01:45 AM
This usage was a nod to Branny. But you know, I do have a bad habit of repeating the same words and phrases too close together, both in talking and in writing. The latter, of course, is easier to correct without embarrassment, since I proofread 99.99% of the time. If anyone has any hints for me on how to keep from doing that, I'd appreciate hearing them.
Posted By: BranShea Re: scrubbed - 07/20/10 03:54 PM
Nod to Jackie.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: scrubbed - 07/20/10 04:09 PM
Absolutely nothing wrong in being careful what you say or write.
The Disney channel warns kids (on a computer usage infomercial)
to be careful what they write: it is out there forever.
Posted By: Avy Re: scrubbed - 07/21/10 01:36 AM
Is there a word for 'the fear of saying the wrong thing?' A ___ phobia?
Posted By: olly Re: scrubbed - 07/21/10 05:02 AM
Social Phobia?

Here is a list.
Posted By: BranShea Re: scrubbed - 07/21/10 07:09 AM
Hahaha, great list! (you don't know you got it till you see it)

misverbophobia?- the fear of saying the wrong word?
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: scrubbed - 07/21/10 03:12 PM
I like the one about the fear of peanut butter sticking to
the roof of your mouth: I'm not even going to try to type it.
Posted By: Avy Re: scrubbed - 07/22/10 01:34 AM
Crazy site. Thanks olly. I enjoyed reading it. Lot of stuff on it.
Posted By: beck123 Re: scrubbed - 07/31/10 02:58 PM
"Agliophobia" is on that list as "fear of pain," but isn't the root word for pain "algia" vice "aglia?" "Agliophobia" sounds more like an Italian's fear of garlic (and what are the odds of that?)

Fear of garlic, BTW, is given in the list as "Alliumphobia," which to me is a clumsy, cacaphonic contruction. I recommend "alliophobia" as a more euphonic word.
Posted By: beck123 Re: scrubbed - 07/31/10 03:05 PM
At work on Thursday I received a review of a lengthy draft document from a colleague who had spent, in his words, "several weeks" - 25 or so, by my count - making innumerable changes that were in almost every case a change from correct grammar and punctuation to incorrect. A friend and I were looking for a word that means "fear of proper grammar" or "fear of proper punctuation." Rather than look through the 92,000 definitions on the list provided above, I offer this question to the forum. We came up with the converse term "dysgrammophilia," which implies "eugrammophobia," but we made those up.
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