ogerhunch voting went as follows:

a) a severe curvature of the dorsal spine, nowadays called "dowager's hump" (wofa) Hydra, Jackie, Zed

b) a small grotesque statue: gargoyle (consuelo) Faldage

c) Norse mythology Loki's land-bound familiar (ASp)

d) a dead, bare tree with a single remaining branch (Faldage) etaoin, Aramis, wofa, belM

e) the feeling that you are about to be set upon by a monster (Jackie) olly

f) a churchgoer, e.g. gree hunger* (themilum) themilum

g) an arrogant, unfeeling, kyphotic prankster (tsuwm) tsuwm

h) Yugoslavian origin a sandwich made from heavy, crusty bread, seasoned veal and pork patties, and dark mustard (belMarduk) BranShea

i) a sluttish woman who smells rank (Hydra)

j) any frightful or loathsome creature, especially a bat (Thomas Edmondston, A Glossary of the Shetland and Orkney Dialect, 1866) consuelo, ASp

k) the radius of the tightest section of a curve, used in calculating the correct degree of camber when designing a racecourse (Zed)

Notes:
1. Faldo’s original entry, sent to the wrong mailbox, read: “a branch on a dead, bare tree” – gives a different feeling, doesn’t it?
2. from themilum: “And dont forget to include the asterisk! The asterisk is my hook to get extra votes. People are so gullible.”
3. Hydra’s original entry (which gets the armil© prize) read: “an intuitive feeling that ogres are nearby.”
4. Jackie’s entry preceded Hydra’s by several hours; her comment was: “I can't believe I'm putting this.”

Votes were grotesquely mobbed, with Faldage whipping wofa four(4) to three(3) – both came up with def’ns that were non-obvious, yet still ‘relational’. Kudos are also due to consuelo and ASp for scaring up the correct answer. Also, I was happy to see that BranShea finally validated her ballot.

themilum and tsuwm are jointly awarded the Ralph Nader Memorial Wasted-vote trophy.

It takes one to know one.

Yes, the capitals are a big help. I was still trying to figure what's what.
Who is the mysterious Asp? Is there a two or a three- headed hogmaster? This is almost like mathematics. I really loose track, which in it's own is not that surprising for a relatively new observer of the game.

> Who is the mysterious Asp?

AnnaStrophic

You rang? hsssssss

Thanks, tsuwm, for yet another resoundingly good round of Hogwash.Your comments always add to the fun.

Another interesting round, ASp . Yet it is my modest opinion the definition could do with some further scrutiny.

Though this may not be usance, I don't know.

j) Any frightful or loathsome creature, especially a bat (Thomas Edmondston, A Glossary of the Shetland and Orkney Dialect, 1866) consuelo, ASp

In 1866 on the Shetlands and Orkneys they considered a bat as being especially loathsome?

Because: "Any frightful and loathsome creature", would that not have been enough?
The adding of the bat seems superfluous I mean. (I like bats. To see them around the house at dusk is magic.To look at them close is especial.)

The one who coined the word and definition just added a superfluous and unnecessary personal dislike to it.

That's why I thought this one really a fake definition.

perhaps that means it just gets used most often when speaking about bats.

well, it's no longer often used (if it ever was), but I suspect your hunch is correct. (many folks find bats to be of a foreboding nature.)
-joe (bats n my belfry) friday

Talk about being a rabble rouser, I sent the wwftd word ogerhunch and its definition to TAGNET, a forum of southeastern cavers who love cute little bats more than they love their grannies. Later tonight TAGNET will post all of their responses and if any are suitable to print on a polite forum like AWAD I'll paste them here.

Was it that bad? Thanks for sparing us the outbursts of unrestrained anger.

Bram Stoker's Dracula was later than the definitions' date,no?

Just another manifestion of the same phenomenon. Satan's wings were often depicted as a bat's wings; the other angels' wings as lovely, fluffy, feathered birds' wings.

Yes, true, I forgot about the long iconical history of the bat's wings.

So tswum is the hogmaster?

They are one and the same

I got a question for Wofa. Is there a ventral spine?

Mantled by my own husband.

What I'd like to know, before finding out who the a) perp is: what other kind of spine is there besides dorsal?

http://wordsmith.org/board/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/171020/

jftr, there have has been a passel of hogwash® moderators over the course of events — we encourage this; but, yes, I am the hogmaster™.

-joe (sooey!) friday

edit: strikethrough some text

No, but there is a cervical spine and a lumbar spine. You've got the right scepticism, but in the wrong dimension.

The lovely AnnaS and I would like to thank you for your explication, Dr. Woofy.

Or as the lovely Piano Red might put it...

Wrong string, Woofy, but the right Yo-Yo!

we gather that nothing came of this, or either that responses were all unsuitable?

-joe (just banking the fires) friday

Sorry Joe, as I age I seem less and less able to rouse the common rabble.
I received only two rises to my bait about bats being orgerhunches; one from Batlady who said that I along with the word ogerhunch belonged to the Seventeenth Century when burning witches cured warts (or something like that).

The other response was from my caving pal ZerbtheSerb who agreed that bats were evil ogerhunches and then gave me the October 2007 issue of National Geographic to prove it.

Zerbe was right. On page 84 directly opposite a full page cute picture of a big browneyed fruit bat was a lead in by the editor that read...

"When a pathogen leaps from some nonhuman animal into a person and succeeds there in making trouble, the result is what's known as a zoonosis. It's a word of the future."

I don't wish to arouse the rabble of the Awaders here by disturbing their comfortable sensitivities so I'll stop and leave you all with just one unpleasant thought...

Bats are really ogerhunches and we are all doomed!

>Bats are really ogerhunches and we are all doomed!

I read the NG article. yikes!

-joe ("what is it about bats?") friday

I read the article.
About virusses and zoonosis:
Human interference influences in many ways.
(A British inquiry into BSE concluded that the epidemic was caused by feeding cattle, who are normally herbivores, the remains of other cattle in the form of meat and bone meal (MBM), which caused the infectious agent to spread.[6][7] The origin of the disease itself remains unknown. )


Don't blame it on the bats. Blame it on human boogie.

regarding our winning entry; to wit, d) a dead, bare tree with a single remaining branch

I spotted this at freerice.com..

rampike means:
1. custodian
2. standing dead tree
3. quicksilver
4. eyeglass



-joe (there's a word for it) friday

Hmmmmm Have we been had by the agendum?