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Posted By: hev Why frogs? - 10/22/03 03:42 AM
I was reading a book last night which said (something along the lines of) ".. and I was frog-marched down the hallway". (I can't remember the exact quote, and now I can't find it... d'oh!)

Anyone got any ideas about why the frogs were being marched, as opposed to any other animal? And how were the frogs marching? Have you ever seen a frog march? They's jumping, leaping and - at a stretch - hopping, but I ain't never seen them marching.

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: Why frogs? - 10/22/03 03:53 AM
Here's one explanation:
http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2003/09/frogmarch.html

Posted By: hev Re: Why frogs? - 10/22/03 04:14 AM
Thanks Max...

Interesting, I can see the frog imagery now, but it definitely wasn't the impression I got from the book, as I recall reading it. Better go find it again, and re-imagine what was actually going on at the time.

Posted By: tsuwm frogmarch in action - 10/22/03 08:09 PM
here's an interesting citation:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1061835,00.html

Posted By: hev Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 12:42 AM
Thanks tsuwm, that's kinda the same context that was in the book I was reading. Can't imagine two people actually dragging her by the arms up the aisle, with her feet dragging behind. "Oooh, don't drag my (cross out inappropriate colours) [white / cream / stucco / mother-of-pearl] wedding dress on the floor..."

Posted By: Jackie Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 01:56 AM
Speaking of interesting:
http://www.frogmarch.com/ Bet they're British!

From the etymology online dic.:
Frog-march (1871) originated among London police and referred to their method of moving "a drunken or refractory prisoner" by carrying him face-down between four people, each holding a limb; the connection with frog perhaps being the notion of going along belly-down. By the 1930s, the verb was used in ref. to the much more efficient (but less frog-like) method of getting someone in an arm-behind-the-back hold and hustling him or her along like that.

http://www.etymonline.com/f5etym.htm


Posted By: sjmaxq Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 02:07 AM
Thanks for the mantle, ma'am.

Posted By: Jackie Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 11:33 AM
This made the difference, to me: "the connection with frog perhaps being the notion of going along belly-down."

Posted By: JohnHawaii Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 10:43 PM
As opposed to a "perp walk", which is normally done without bodily contact between escorts and escorted.

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 11:16 PM
>This made the difference, to me: "the connection with frog perhaps being the notion of going along belly-down."


Which I still call a mantle, since the same idea was clearly implicit in the link I posted.


Posted By: Wordwind Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 11:31 PM
My gosh, synchronicity is rampant! This was the very word I'd been trying to think of on another board! Amazing. Synchronicity is amazing.

Posted By: Zed Re: frogmarch in action - 10/23/03 11:31 PM
Is the plural of mantle mentle or should we be all PC and call it persontle and peopletle?

Posted By: Jackie Re: frogmarch in action - 10/24/03 02:18 AM
the same idea was clearly implicit in the link I posted.
As I said, it was not...to me. My inadequacies seem to be hanging out even further than usual.

Posted By: hev Re: frogmarch in action - 10/24/03 05:28 AM
Right-ee-ho! Watch out y'all, or I'll be frog-marching you all on outta here to take up your beef outside.

Thanks for everyone's help on this one.

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