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Posted By: modestgoddess "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 01:38 AM
Heard on the news a few days ago about this new poison found in London (UK) - rizin? reisin? risin? - dunno how it's spelled coz I gets most of my news from the radio.

Anyway, the news report had a sound byte of someone saying the new scary thing isn't toooo scary because it's not easy to "weaponize."

O God. MUST we?!

Anyone else besides me prefer the longer, but less hip and trendy and new, "less easy to turn into an instrument of biological warfare"? or similar....

Posted By: wwh Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 01:58 AM
Dear MG: about twenty years ago the KGB arranged murder of an anticommunist by having
him jabbed in back with umbrella of which the hollow tip carried a pellet of ricin, which is a
derivative of Castor bean, and easy to make. And in that case easy to use. The victim did
not realize his skin had been penetrated, and would have had no way of knowing he needed
special treatment very quickly.
So "weaphizing" an extract from a common plant sounds very easy and feasible to me.
Of course there would be limits on how easy it might be to get intended victim into right
place at the right time. Good only in limited circumstances. As far as I know the Russians
used it only once for that reason.

Here's URL about the Cold War episode in London.
http://asia.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/07/terror.poison.bulgarian/
Posted By: Faldage Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 11:04 AM
Geesh! First y'all prescritivists are running around complaining about single words being replaced by long drawn out phrases, like metropolitan sanitation engineers for dustmen; next thang y'all are weeping and wailing and gnashing your teeth about long drawn out phrases being replaced by single words. Problem is y'all got no respeck for the language. It's fine as long as it does what y'all want it to, but y'all cain't take it on its own terms.

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 11:10 AM


The word makes perfect sense and is easily understandable.

The other word is 'ricin.'

k


Posted By: dxb Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 11:30 AM
Problem is y'all got no respeck for the language. It's fine as long as it does what y'all want it to, but y'all cain't take it on its own terms.Faldage - pathetic fallacy?

The word seems fine, y’all just need to spell it right: weaponise.


Posted By: milum Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 11:34 AM
. Problem is y'all got no respeck for the language. It's fine as long as it does what y'all want it to, but y'all cain't take it on its own terms. ~ Faldage

The problem Faldage, is that your precious "language" has no "terms". Language has nothing. It is a mindless system of people-sanctioned words that tip-toe, spin, and dance at people's slightest whim. We are only whiming.

Humph! And you call us prescriptivists.


Posted By: Faldage Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 11:46 AM
We are only whiming.

There you go again. Weeping and whiming and gnashing your teeth.

Posted By: modestgoddess whiming - 01/13/03 03:54 PM
My additional whime (yes, I'd like cheese and crackers with that, maybe some grapes too):

I just miss the good ol' days, when people weren't in such a hurry, and talked longer sentences that were often fluid and elegant and had a certain ring to them and a cadence and rhythm and je ne sais quois. (Unlike the foregoing. ) "Weaponise" and other short and nasty expressions are hastening the demise of sweet speech. IMHO...

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 04:49 PM
The word seems fine, y’all just need to spell it right: weaponise. ~ dxb

*rimshot*

Posted By: dxb What is this life so full of care ............. - 01/13/03 06:14 PM
often fluid and elegant and had a certain ring to them and a cadence and rhythm and je ne sais quois

For preference I agree with all you say MG, but if those who prefer to hurtle through time feel a need to use newspaper headline language to speed their passage, who are we to deny them?

Those fluid and elegant words and sentence constructions are still there for us to use and be sure others will also continue to use them for us to read and savour (I have to allow *you to write savor no doubt, but I won't comment).

Then again those slow descriptive passages such as you find in James Fennimore Cooper's writing take some stamina to work through these days. Fine in their day no doubt... I'm thinking particularly of The Deerslayer which we 'did' at school for some strange reason. Purgatory on a hot summer afternoon.



I have to allow *you to write savor no doubt, but I won't comment

forget *rimshot*, that was a *cheap shot*! I pop in plenty of youse in my colours, favours, flavours, savours and others and I spell theatre and centre kerreckly, too. Must confess to being a bit of a wild card when it comes to esses and zeds, though - I shamelessly switch between 'em with no rhyme nor reason, nor method to my madness. Then I excuse myself by telling myself that I'm trans-Atlantic (not just in word, but in thought and deed too, apparently). Works for me.

Posted By: rav Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/13/03 07:20 PM
weaponise = wane poise?
or whatever..

...and savour (I have to allow *you to write savor no doubt, but I won't comment...

That's what we have the Asp for!

Problem is y'all got no respeck for the language. It's fine as long as it does what y'all want it to, but y'all cain't take it on its own terms.

Warning... danger, Will Robinson...

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MG - That's spelt 'kerrecktly'.

I sit kerreckted. Thanks musick....

forget *rimshot*, that was a *cheap shot*!

I guess it was at that. Sorry, just couldn't resist it!

thatsokay, dxb - I luuurve you anyway!

thatsokay, dxb - I luuurve you anyway
Paws off, woman--I saw him first!



Posted By: AnnaStrophic We have no time to stand and stare - 01/15/03 05:13 PM
OK. I thought I found him first but I'll let y'all mud-rassle it out.

Posted By: dxb Re: We have no time to stand and stare - 01/15/03 05:14 PM


Paws off, woman--I saw him first!

BRING IT ON, BABY!

(cat fight, cat fight!)

I like the mud idea, but jello might be more palatable.

Posted By: Jackie Re: We have no time to stand and stare - 01/15/03 05:17 PM
Who's staring? I'm a-grabbin'!

Posted By: dxb Re: We have no time to stand and stare - 01/15/03 05:22 PM
[stealing quietly out the door-e]

Posted By: Capfka Re: We have no time to stand and stare - 01/19/03 05:41 AM
Somewhere there are more proto-gutter police. I just know it. And we need them. Because our original gutter police got corrupted real quick. Things are completely outta control.

- Pfranz
Posted By: Jackie Re: We have no time to stand and stare - 01/19/03 06:35 PM
our original gutter police got corrupted real quick.
You should see the post I just made on your apostrophic point!

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: "weaponize"??!! - 01/19/03 08:58 PM
weaponise = wane poise?
or whatever..


I pose anew (!!!)




Posted By: consuelo Re: We have no time to stand and stare - 01/19/03 09:04 PM
Somewhere there are more proto-gutter police
I know, I volunteered for that job, but.
our original gutter police got corrupted real quick.
I guess I had a hand in that one, didn't I?
You should see the post I just made on your apostrophic point!
Harumph®! Until you post something as bad as I did on the Demented Dic thread, you are rated GP-13 <EG>



Posted By: Jackie Re: We have no time to stand and stare - 01/19/03 11:00 PM
I guess I had a hand in that one, didn't I?
You most certainly did NOT! I mean, I like you and all, but! Really!! [mock outrage e]

Demented Dic I am NOT touching that one!

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