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Posted By: rav katzenjammer - 12/13/02 05:03 PM
it is generally a german word. does there exist any strictly english equivalent??

Posted By: wwh Re: katzenjammer - 12/13/02 05:04 PM
hangover

Posted By: Faldage Re: katzenjammer - 12/13/02 05:06 PM
english equivalent

Depending on what you want it to mean. I don't think we have one word that covers all three meanings given in the A.W.A.D.

The cat's meow is something entirely else.

Posted By: musick Re: katzenjammer - 12/13/02 11:26 PM
Wasn't there a radio or early TV show featuring the "katzenjammer kids"?

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Could these be mentors of The "Bauhaus" (the band) school of excitement? The predecessors to fans of "The Cure"?



edit : I've apologized to Dr.Bill for speaking so quickly before reading the rest of the AWAD site. Things seem to be so widely spread out these days and my time is quite thin.
Posted By: wwh Re: katzenjammer - 12/13/02 11:39 PM
Rudolph Dirks created The Katzenjammer Kids in 1897 for the American
Humorist, the famed Sunday supplement of the New York Journal. Inspired in
part by Max Und Moritz, the famous German children's stories of the 1860s, The
Katzenjammer Kids featured the adventures of Hans and Fritz, twins and fellow
warriors in the battle against any form of authority. "The Katzies" rebelled
against Mama (their own mother, of course), der Captain (the shipwrecked
sailor who acted as their surrogate father) and der Inspector (dreaded
representative of the school authorities).

The oldest comic strip still in syndication, The Katzenjammer Kids was adapted
to the stage in 1903 and inspired countless animated cartoons. Today the
feature is drawn by Hy Eisman. The U.S. Postal Service also saluted the
Katzies with a commemorative stamp.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: katzenjammer - 12/13/02 11:45 PM
Who you quoting, Dr. Bill? [tsk tsk]

Posted By: wwh Re: katzenjammer - 12/14/02 12:23 AM
The URL I posted in Weekly Themes this morning. "Below the fold" - Remember? Well, it
used to be.

Posted By: wofahulicodoc No kidding! - 12/14/02 02:15 AM
Re: katzenjammer

"it is generally a german word. does there exist any strictly english equivalent??"
- rav

"...The cat's meow is something entirely else." - Faldage


True, but we do have "caterwauling," which is a lot closer... (well, maybe not to "hangover," but at least to the literal meaning of Katzenjammer.
Posted By: rav Re: - 12/14/02 11:40 AM
cat's meow is what i thought about, i suppose. i was asking about that, because in my language the word 'katzenjammer' is literally translated and used with both metaphorical and strict meaning. well, thanks a lot for your answers.

Posted By: Faldage Re: No kidding! - 12/14/02 12:33 PM
we do have "caterwauling," which is a lot closer

The failure of any single English word to match all the meanings of Katzenjammer was my point. I didn't think of caterwauling, wof. Good one. But as you say, it doesn't mean hangover, at least not that I've ever heard.

Posted By: chadahic Re: katzenjammer - 12/15/02 08:15 AM
Bedlam was the apt synonym for what my elder relatives seemed to mean when they applied the term to my brothers and rarely to me!

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