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Posted By: of troy gramercy, for my grammer - 04/13/02 11:20 PM
Long ago, on one of the PBS specials, perhaps The Story of English-- the commentator stated, "Glammor, is a misspelling of Grammer" and went on to say grammar, like grammar school, is of language and learning (ie, being literate.) but, grammer, goes back to the root of Gram (1/28 of an ounce) "what is written" (the weight of ink on the paper!)

how funny!

and gramercy (which i was sure was related..) has nothing to to do with grammar.. it, like charing cross, is a coruption of french, grand merci, (archaic for thank you very much!)

just though every one would enjoy that....

Posted By: Jackie Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/14/02 01:02 AM
Gramercy.

Posted By: wwh Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/14/02 04:18 PM
t might be good to remember the etymology of the word "glamour." It comes
from the Scottish/Celtic word "glammer," which means to cast a spell or an ...

Etymology - grammer of words. Solladigaram deals with grammer of words. It discusses
gender, person,number,case and other infections, the different parts of ...

" but, grammer, goes back to the root
of Gram (1/28 of an ounce) "what is written" (the weight of ink on the paper!) "
Dear of troy: Since the gram weight was part of the metrical system developed during French Revolution, I do not think it could be related to 'grammer'.
http://www.visalakshinityanand.com/tholkapiam.html

Posted By: Wordwind Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/14/02 11:59 PM
Here's something from OneLook:

1 entry found for grammer.



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grammer, IN Zip code(s): 47236


and...

Definitions of Grammer:


name: A surname (rare: 1 in 50000 families; popularity rank in the U.S.: #5917)



That's it for OneLook--two sources. I find it pretty amazing that one in 50,000 families in the US is named Grammer. I must live a sheltered life...yeah, yeah, I read it's rare, but really...

Best regards,
Wordwondering





Posted By: of troy Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/15/02 01:48 AM
Kelsey Grammer comes to mind..
didn't realize it was that rare..

Posted By: Keiva Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/15/02 11:35 AM
http://www.anywho.com, an on-line phone directory, lists 15 "Grammer's" in the state of New York.

Posted By: milum Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/15/02 12:25 PM
Only 15 Grammers in New York state ? Where are the missing Grammers? There must be a hot-bed of Grammers somewhere.

I in 50,000 translates to 5,750 Grammers in the states.
                         New York State 15
Grammer, Ind 26
Kelsey Grammer 1

This board can account for only 42 Grammers. 5,708 Grammers have been lost. Anybody check Arkansas?

Posted By: Wordwind Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/15/02 12:35 PM
5,708 Grammers have been lost.

I think it's another cased of inflated figures... An influential Grammer somewhere ...

ww

Posted By: of troy Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/15/02 01:36 PM
Grammer might be a made up name.

my ex's family had a made up family name: SIAS.. it was shortened from the original. Sias is not a common name, and there is a great deal of evidence, that all of the Sias's in US are related to original, a man who married a Mayflower passenger, (she was a child at the time of the crossing, he came later)-- several volumes on The Sias Family in America have all the boring details
(maybe Dr Bill, who has an interest in geneolgy might find in enjoyable reading, I don't. i know about, because of a family connection.)

the point is, most of Grammer's might be congretated in one or two states.. where the Grammer clan first started.

Posted By: Faldage Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/15/02 05:17 PM
Since the gram weight was part of the metrical system developed during French Revolution, I do not think it could be related to 'grammer'.

Font of knowledge that she is, I believe helen has gotten the connection backwards here. The root of grammar is from the Greek gramma meaning letter.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/77/G0217700.html

The word shifted in meaning to mean a small thing and it is from this meaning that the SI took its basic unit of mass.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/75/G0217500.html

Posted By: of troy Re: gramercy, for my grammer - 04/15/02 06:11 PM
Thank, falage, i was at home when i posted, the board was so slow, but my connection was worse, and AOL dropped me -sevice disconnect..

yes, gram* is a IE root, and the metric gram is a new use of an old word...

if i get a chance, i pop over to bartelby's, and get some info on the IE root.. like gen-- which pops up in gender, gentile, and a host of other words, gram looks like an interesting root.

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