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Posted By: Keiva Terms of endearment - 02/09/02 06:12 PM
What lovey-dovey terms do we use to refer to our significant others (apart from the well-known sugar, honey, and the like), or to our little children?

What terms of this sort are used in other languages?

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Terms of endearment - 02/09/02 06:38 PM
Pardon my French, Keiva, but my favorite from French I was, "Mon petit choux-fleur..." and I fairly sure I've mispelled here and no longer own the Larousse...

"My little cabbage head...

I call my kids at school, "You rascals!" and "You little dilly brains!" and "My angels!" (rarely--they're most often "little dickens"...)Delivery is all.

Actually, I like sweet insults better than obviously sweet terms.... Learned 'em from me dad...

Best rascals,
WordWakening

Posted By: wwh Re: Terms of endearment - 02/09/02 07:44 PM
Dearly beloved Wordwind: ravishingly riotously rejuvenating to see you posting again. Confusion to contemptible contumelious callous poison pen pushers.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Terms of endearment - 02/09/02 08:25 PM
Yer. What he said. I think.

Well, in case he didn't, welcome back. Stick around!

Posted By: Angel Re: Terms of endearment - 02/09/02 09:03 PM
As to the little ones, my daughter had many, but "Wanzingy" was our favorite. I'm sure I spelled that wrong, but it means "monkey" in Korean.

And as for what I call my husband, it's not so much what I call him, it's how I call him. And what direction I'm heading in, when I call him!

Posted By: Angel Re: Terms of endearment - 02/09/02 09:05 PM
Stick around!

A celestial welcome back from an Angel to Wordwind!

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Terms of endearment - 02/10/02 12:10 PM
And many thanks for the welcome back. Wordwound's wounds are all healed, and, besides, I do like fresh air.

You're pussycats--batting about your little paws in the wind here--I've been reading you!--and I did need to huff and puff a bit over that criticizing of Dearest Emily!

Endearment: My cumquat! My macaroon! Star gazer...apple of my eye...pudding...or puddin'...sweet thang...heart o' my heart ...love of my life...man o' my dreams...jewel...gem...
peach...honey chil'...wild thing...Rose...

All things sweet and all things whimsical...

Beating regards,
WordWrapt and WordRaptured, too

Posted By: wow Re: Terms of endearment - 02/10/02 02:32 PM
The obvious never being beneath me ... Sweetheart.
M'love. Honeybunch. Sweetie-pie. Honeybug. Lover.
And a word I learned from my college roommate "Nudnick" which is a word, I believe, meaning one who drives you to the brink of madness then does something so adorable and sweet and unexpected you simply *have to love them. For example she named her kitten "Nudnick." A lot of young children deserve the appelation too, n'est ce pas, Mothers?

Posted By: Keiva Re: Terms of endearment - 02/10/02 02:57 PM
Nudnick is Yiddish. The -nik ending is a dead giveaway.

Per Rosten: a nudnik is not just a nuisance; to merit the status of nudnik, a nuisance must be a persistent, talkative, obnoxious and indefatigable nag. As in a mother saying to a child, "Stop bothering me. Don't be a nudnik!" So yes, there is a component of endearment.

Illustrative:
1. What is phudnik? A nudnick with a Ph.D.

2. Mr. Polanski complained to his doctor, "Something terrible has happened to me. I try to stop it, but I can't ... Morning, noon, and night -- I keep talking to myself!" "Now, now," the doctor crooned, "that isn't such a bad habit. Why, thousands of people do it." "But Doctor," protested Polanski, "do you know what a nudnik I am?!"

Posted By: Tsyganka Re: Terms of endearment - 02/10/02 06:27 PM
From the parental generation: honey pig and petit chou (which I've probably misspelled)

From our generation: kiddo, oh apple of my pie, little tundra flower, sun god, and you-there-I-live-with-you. This last is probably an alternative to remembering the actual name; we're both Aquarians and so tend to forget names, despite 21+ years of marriage. Even our own names. Details, details. The important thing is to remember the reason for the endearments.

"'Round the table now we go; catch me at the corner."

Tsyganka

Posted By: slithy toves Re: Terms of endearment - 02/10/02 08:17 PM
Nudnik - Pesty nagger, nuisance, a bore, obnoxious person. (The Agira Glossary of Yiddish Expressions)

This is endearment? Oi vei! (How's the spelling now?)

Posted By: Bingley Re: Terms of endearment - 02/11/02 05:07 AM
Just add ku (my) to the end of the person's name. So, Candiku.

Indonesian also has
sayang (usually translated darling but also means unfortunately)abbreviated to just 'yang;
kasih (or more commonly kasihku (my love)its derivative kasihan means poor little thing, aaaaaaah).
manis (literally sweet).

There's also the word jodoh. Jodoh is serious stuff, this is the one fate destined you for. Lonely hearts ads are iklan jodoh. I don't think you'd actually call anyone jodoh, though.

Bingley
Posted By: Bean Re: Terms of endearment - 02/11/02 12:54 PM
I like to do variations on the standard ones. I went through a Honey stage: Honey bran muffin, honey bunch, honey bunches of oats (that is a breakfast cereal), honey pie (Beatles tune). There are others but they are so goofy that I don't think my honey wants you to hear them!

Posted By: Flatlander Re: Terms of endearment - 02/11/02 04:29 PM
Speaking of variations, my almost-6-year-old niece has the oddest "term" of endearment I've ever heard -- she changes the last syllable in the thing she loves' name to "-is" (or occasionally adds -is on to the end of the name). Thus her cat Hunter becomes Huntis and my daughter is Abigailis. No idea where she picked it up from, but my wife and I have picked it up from her.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Terms of endearment - 02/11/02 05:11 PM
Dear Flatlanis,

Ya' think it might have any connection to "Beavis and Buttheadis"?

Best regards,
Wordwindis


Posted By: slithy toves Re: Terms of endearment - 02/12/02 04:15 AM
In the spirit of the season:

<www.mcny.org/luv17.htm>

Posted By: consuelo Re: Terms of endearment - 02/12/02 10:56 AM
My ex-husband used to claim that "gorda" was a term of endearment and indeed many parents call their children "gorda/o" and I have actually heard spouses use it as well, but all I could ever hear was "fatty" when he called me "gorda". [A little cross-cultural sensitivity no-no-e]. Another of his favorites, "vieja", meaning "old lady", was one I could tolerate a little better. I much prefered "querida" or "mi amor".

Posted By: Jackie Re: Terms of endearment - 02/12/02 11:42 AM
Dear Ed (May I call you that, Mr. Ed U. Gator?),

Good heavens--now, I can get pretty doggoned sentimental, but what your link has is too saccharine even for me:

Inscription:

To my lovey-dovey
on Valentine's Day

Inside:

To My lovey-dovey

You're my LOVEY-DOVEY,
You're my SUGAR PIE,
You're my SNOOKY-OOKUMS
over whom I sigh
You're my TOOTSY-WOOTSY,
You're my HONEY BEE,
You're my DUCKY-WUCKY
You're the world to me.

You're my PRECIOUS PUMPKIN,
You're my SUGAR LUMP,
You're my ACE of ACES,
Whenever HEARTS are TRUMP.

I LOVE YOU


By the way, for you and all other newcomers: here's how to make a link immediately clickable in your post (this saves time copying and pasting), except--put URL where I use XYZ (yes, capitalize)--if I used the correct cue, you wouldn't see it, just as you didn't see my cues to begin and end the italics. [XYZ]http://www.mcny.org/luv17.htm[/XYZ]. If this doesn't work, you have probably typed [[, [}, or perhaps omitted the / to end it.



Posted By: of troy Re: Terms of endearment - 02/12/02 01:11 PM
No, you don't have to capitalize url.. lower cases work fine

but Jackie has repeated my mistake.. don't include the http://-- your url should just be the www.wordsmith.org the url command automatically add http:// so if you add it, the url doesn't work (and Jackie knows that, because i have made that mistake more than once, and each time she has kindly redone my url! )

the FAQ has this information, and plenty more, if you print the whole FAQ, is is only 4 pages.. and it is easier to read and reference in hard copy. for a cart load of tips and tricks, find a Post by Max, and click on his signature.. he has a web page with links, and all the good stuff we have found, like list of on line dictionaries, reference books and the like.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Terms of endearment - 02/12/02 01:23 PM
Helen, good point on printing out our Helpful Hints--I hadn't thought of that. I've sometimes thought it might be a little daunting, seeing all that material, pertinent though it is.

On the http bit: I think I've gotten it to work with ONE http://. But for some reason, if I put the [url] on one line, but the actual address goes to the next, for some reason it then comes out with TWO http's, and that won't work, I do know. So even if I only have one word on my last line, now I put the [url] on the next. And thanks for the reminder about lower case--lost my mind, I reckon!

Posted By: TEd Remington Re: Terms of endearment - 02/14/02 04:53 PM
Since it's Valentine's Day, and since I know no one will tell Peggy that I revealed this, I will tell you that I refer to her as my mustard bean.

Who can guess why?

Posted By: satin Re: Terms of endearment - 02/14/02 07:13 PM
My husband heard it once and found it hilarious and uses it now to see if anyone gets it...he introduces me as his first wife...He loves telling everyone there is no second wife because he is still married to the first one.


Posted By: Keiva Re: Terms of endearment - 02/14/02 07:23 PM
I've used that one too -- but now sometimes refer to my darlin' as my trophy wife.
[She is, I should add, the same individual!

Posted By: of troy Re: Terms of endearment - 02/14/02 07:29 PM
Lois Wyse, a woman who writes a column for some woman magazine, and has writen a book, and used own a big Madison Avenue Ad agency, was widowed rather young, just as she was starting her company,(she had 2 young children at the time) for a long time, work and kids keep her busy, and she had almost no social life to speak of..

She attended some social function one day, and met an interesting man..they talk, had a glass of wine, and finally she told him "you seem very much like my second husband..." He asked.."how many times have you been married?" and she replied.. "just once."

less than a year later, they were married! i always though her's was a great line!

my kids were always "goops" from the book of manners (E.B. White?)Goops, and How to be One.

Posted By: consuelo Re: Terms of endearment - 02/14/02 07:49 PM
Just today, a friend called me "poopy-head" and informed me that it was a term of endearment! Well, I know he loves me, but he really needs a different term, doncha think?

Posted By: Angel Re: Terms of endearment - 02/14/02 08:13 PM
...he introduces me as his first wife...

I used to introduce my husband, as my first husband. He said he was my only husband. To which I responded, "and if you are a good boy, you will stay that way!" He wasn't a good boy...and he is someone else's problem now!

The man I am now married to, he is my husband. No ifs, ands, or threats!

Posted By: nancyk Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 12:00 AM
Don't know that they're technically terms of endearment, but my husband calls our sons First-Born and Last-Born. Interestingly we've had a whole series of nicknames for Last-Born and virtually none for First-Born - a function of their very different personalities, perhaps. For example, David at one point was Davey Doodle, which became Dipsy Doodle, which was shortened to Dips. There are still others, but you get the idea. (And God forbid that David, at 19, should EVER stumble upon this site and realize how far I've spread the family idiosyncracies!)

Posted By: stales Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 07:34 AM
"Mate" - my 2 sons & the rest of the world - except SWMBO

"Chook / Chookie" - SWMBO

"Floss/Flossie/Flossiechops" - SWMBO again

stales



Posted By: stales Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 07:45 AM
A friend of mine every now and then introduces his wife as his future ex wife. Not funny when you think about it but folk laugh all the same. She doesn't. Neither did my wife when I introduced her as, "My current wife".

stales

Posted By: paulb Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 11:30 AM
I've just been watching Hitchcock's "Suspicion" with Cary Grant and Joan Fontaine. Throughout the film Cary calls Joan "Monkey face".

Posted By: Bean Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 12:05 PM
OK, OK, I will now admit that Dag calls me his "little abacus". (I mentioned it to him yesterday and he said I could tell you guys...) Why? Because I can and do love doing math in my head. And I'll bring up number-related things completely out of context (to anyone else, that is).

Posted By: of troy Calculating woman... - 02/15/02 12:52 PM
Oh do play games in the elevator too?

one of the things i love about my job is i work on a prime (number) floor..(and you might notice, my profile says i am 47.)

once, i met my son at his office.. we got on the elevator with several others.. and i notices.. 23, 29, 31, 37. and smiled and then notice benjamin was smiling too, when we got off, i said "prime numbers?" and he nodded.. we both played the same game..silently in our heads..other in not too tall building you can sometimes get 3 squares, (9, 16, 25) or 3, 9, 18 (number, square, cube)more complicated patterns include a number and all of its factors (remember, you got on the elevator at 1, even if the button isn't pushed..) or other interesting series..2, 3, 5, 8.
i usually don't talk about this stuff, because, well words are almost normal. we all talk and read, and write a bit.. but playing numbers games in your head.. that's way too wierd!

Posted By: Bean Re: Calculating woman... - 02/15/02 01:46 PM
I'm so glad there are other nuts out there like me, Helen, and another who sent a PM on the subject!

When I was in BC last fall, my supervisor was impressed at my ability to remember numbers (we were always giving out the phone number to our hotel, or the address for couriers, and I was the one who always knew it, even after only being in the hotel for a couple of days - because I see patterns in the numbers that help me remember). It was quite useful when we wanted to contact the guy about the public dock, and his three (!) phone numbers were posted outside, and we were with no paper. So I just took a minute or two to memorize them, while my supervisor wandered back to the van looking for paper. I can still remember two of them!

Unfortunately I don't ride elevators in tall buildings much. We don't really have any properly tall buildings here! But I love finding patterns in phone numbers, addresses, room numbers, birthdates...

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 03:27 PM
Dag calls me his "little abacus".
As I read this, I thought you were going to say that is was because he could always count on you!

I dislike my wife's name pretty much, so I always call her "Darling." My problem comes when I need to introduce her, when I have to struggle to remember what her real name is! If I have to call her from another part of the house, I usually use the term, "You old bat!" which has become a standing joke, not least because it shocks/amuses visitors who don't know us very well.

My daughter and son, when very small, were known to us as "Poppy" and "Grolly." These days, they refer to me (but not to my face) as "the old man;" I can't complain, as this was the title bestowed on my dear father by my brothers and I.

Posted By: Bean Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 04:26 PM
he could always count on you!

I'll have to pass that along!

Now, on to parental names..When my brother and I discuss my parents as a group, they are "the parental units". Meant in a loving way, of course.

Posted By: Keiva Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 05:21 PM
the parental unit

Abbreviated PU?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Games - 02/15/02 05:42 PM
i usually don't talk about this stuff, because, well words are almost normal. we all talk and read, and write a bit.. but playing numbers games in your head.. that's way too wierd!


Not at all, Helen. You should meet Faldage!! (oh, that's right, you already did )

Posted By: of troy Re: Games - 02/15/02 05:54 PM
and yeah, as you know, faldage and i did (and do!) exchange PM every once in a while.. we wierdos do have this ability to recognize each other..
great minds do think alike, you know..
or is it shallow streams all run the same way?

one of them!



Posted By: Faldage Re: Calculating woman... - 02/15/02 06:12 PM
3, 9, 18 (number, square, cube)

18? cube? Of what?

You want to play a number game in your head, try figuring out in your head if there ane more Friday the 13ths or Tuesday the 13ths.

Posted By: Keiva Re: Calculating woman... - 02/15/02 06:27 PM
try figuring out in your head if there ane more Friday the 13ths or Tuesday the 13ths.

Obviously dependent upon the time-period selected.

The mental calucation is simplified somewhat by noting that if Tuesday is the 13th of a 31-day month (and 7/12th of the months qualify), then Friday will be the 13th day of the following month. (E.g. in 2002 August 13 is a Tuesday; September 13 is a Friday.)

Posted By: consuelo Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 07:05 PM
I sometimes refer to my parents as "the rents".

Posted By: maverick Re: Terms of endearment - 02/15/02 07:32 PM
"the rents"

yeahbut®

that makes you a rent girl - better tear that one out!

Posted By: Sparteye Re: Terms of endearment - 02/16/02 12:25 AM
Well, as many of you know, my younger son is usually called "Foul Spawn of Satan," or "Foul Spawn" for short; in public, I often address him as "Bucket." My older son is "Benners" more often than not. For a while, he wanted to be called "Basket" as a companion name to "Bucket," but I think that he realized that the implications of the nickname were uncomplimentary. (like FSOS is laudatory)

Posted By: TEd Remington parents as "the rents". - 02/17/02 05:16 PM
Seems like the lease you can do. Which one was the evil of two lessors?

Posted By: Rouspeteur Re: Terms of endearment - 02/19/02 10:48 AM
Well for my beloved there is Chérie, or if being silly, chevreuil.

For the children: minou or petit chou are the most common.
One of my nephews (age 3) is referred to as Dr. Destructo.

My parents: Aged P (works for both)

Others I remember for my siblings were:

Michaelmouse (Michael)
Lillybets (Elisabeth)
Mugwumps (Marguerite)
CathCath (Catherine)

I don't think my oldest brother ever had such an appellation and, of course, mine is classified.

Posted By: stales Re: Terms of endearment - 02/19/02 10:57 AM
Friend of ours had twins......"Search" and "Destroy"

stales

Posted By: Keiva Re: Terms of endearment - 02/19/02 12:26 PM
One of my now-grown children Hi, CJ! would never forgive her dad for letting it be known that she was called, as an infant, our chubby-cheeked chickadee.

Posted By: Keiva Re: Terms of endearment - 02/19/02 04:19 PM
Dr. Sereno (from the "cusp" thread) commented, "My mother nicknamed me "Buddha" for my serene composure as an infant."

[and added: "That nickname was quickly forgotten after ... the start of a troubled career in public school." Kids!]

Posted By: milum Re: Terms of endearment - 02/20/02 09:16 AM
Back before the steam engine I made up a word of endearment. Well, me and Pal Al Saunders did, Tank and Major Hate were there but they were passed out in the back seat. What we needed was a suitable disdainful term for "girl". What we were was the best dancers and the best dressers on the beach and we could hardly be seen mouthing yesterdays lame terms like Chick, Broad, Split-Tail, or Bitch. Could we?
Finally, in sync with the last can of beer we decided on "Squench". Yeah, somehow demeaning but not too much.

We were the coolest of the cool so soon after, bopsters in Atlanta, Birminghan, and Panama City were calling their squenches "Squenches". And rightly so because they were.

Time passed, the steam engine was invented and last year in an enviornmental Newsletter a former squench of mine came back to haunt me. She wrote...

"...back then Milo had a special name for me. He called me a Squench. I think that it was a contraction of Squaw and Wench, but I didn't mind."

So there you have it, spelling, definition, origin. But alas, after the last bopsters bipped their last bop the term fell into disuse, so much so that you hardly hear it anymore.


Posted By: wow Re: Terms of endearment (late entry) - 02/20/02 03:04 PM
On just one occasion I introduced the Late Great Captain as "John, my second husband." He smiled and seemed to take it in good part. However several days later introducing me he said : "This is Ann, my first wife."
We both, at once, stopped using those phrases!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Terms of endearment (late entry) - 02/20/02 07:20 PM
Which reminded me of one of my less glorious moments ... but since it's language-related: My first marriage started going pear-shaped from, oooh, about day 1. Shortly before the final curtain, my wife and I had an incandescent row not long before going to a friend's party. The car journey to the venue was accomplished in companionably poisonous silence, a fairly normal condition for us by then.

There were some people there we didn't know, and I was introduced to them, but only after I'd had more than one drink. Well, more than several, actually. I then introduced my spouse as "This is ____, my ex-wife." She (naturally enough, and with a couple of drinks inside her as well) reponded, without thinking: "We're still married!", to which I replied "It's all a matter of timing."

Whoops.



Posted By: Angel Re: Terms of endearment (late entry) - 02/20/02 08:04 PM
One of my nearest and dearest male friends, calls me "doll". It never fails to bring a smile to my face!

But another of my male friends, has always referred to me as "darlin'". This too, I loved, until the day I overheard him say to another friend, "in Texas, when you can't remember their name, we call 'em darlin'!" Kinda took the sweetness out of it for me!

Posted By: boronia Re: Terms of endearment - 02/20/02 09:45 PM
Rouspeteur mentioned "Michaelmouse" for Michael, to which I add the German version: "Dreamaus" for Andrea

Posted By: Keiva Re: Terms of endearment - 02/23/02 12:14 AM
Since taking the name Keiva, I've taken to calling my wife-of-25-years my kalleh, which is Yiddish for my "bride". She says it makes her feel like a young girl.

To twenty-five more, my shayn kalleh!

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