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Posted By: David108 ~phile and ~phobe - 05/20/00 10:24 PM
If ~phile connotes a lover of something, and ~phobe connotes one who has a fear of something, what connotes someone who hates/detests something?

I have tried the various dictionaries and Thesauruses (Thesauri?) with no luck.

Anticipating a barrage of derision, David108 asks:

Example - my friend is a Rugby fan (Rugbyphile?) and I can't abide the game. What am I?

<grin>



Posted By: tsuwm Re: ~phile and ~phobe - 05/21/00 01:47 AM
David, how can I break this to you gently... <g>
-phobe has two(2) senses: fearing or hating -- which adds up when you think about how the two are related.

you are a rugbyphobe. a better example of where the two senses become... confused is 'homophobe'.


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Posted By: emanuela Re: ~phile and ~phobe and ~miso - 05/21/00 07:43 AM
"miso" before something means -I believe - what you are looking for.
For example, misogynous means someone hating women.

But I don't know how to coin the word about 'miso'rugby...
Ciao
Emanuela

Posted By: Bingley Re: ~phile and ~phobe - 05/21/00 01:53 PM
Would Phoebe's admirers and detractors be Phoebephiles and Phoebephobes?

Bingley
Posted By: tsuwm Re: ~phile and ~phobe and ~miso - 05/21/00 02:17 PM
sure, miso- and philo- as prefixes; -phile and -phobe as suffixes.

Can anyone cite a form of miso (Greek) used as a suffix?

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Posted By: Jackie Re: ~phile and ~phobe and ~miso - 05/21/00 05:15 PM
Tsuwm--
nonconformis(t)?

Posted By: tsuwm Re: ~phile and ~phobe and ~miso - 05/21/00 05:28 PM
:-) nice try, but (although a nonconformist may hate to conform) I don't think
-ist (used to denote one who practices or believes in) qualifies...
Posted By: David108 Re: ~phile and ~phobe and ~miso - 05/21/00 06:14 PM
There's a revolting Greek seafood paste called "taramiso". Does that qualify?
<grin>

Posted By: Rubrick Re: ~phile and ~phobe - 05/22/00 10:19 PM
From former emails and postings - a cricketer!

But seriously, it would make you a non-conformist at a public school and a Saturday shopper during the five(six)-nations during winter.

The best I can think of would be a form of anti- or contra-. Rugby is an Etymological word (please correct me!) and is named after the place from whence it began - like cheddar, Gorgonzola, champagne etc. so it is difficult to give it a handle. Anti-Rugbyist, contra-rugbyite just don't roll off the tongue as well as CRICKETER! so maybe the form should follow what you are a fanatic of and not what you aren't. Example: 'Do you like Rugby?' 'Hell, no. I'm a die-hard cricketer'. Nuff sed. Do you really need to be so ardently anti-rugby (or anything else) to have a new word (or prefix/suffix) coined for the purpose??

Posted By: Rubrick Re: ~phile and ~phobe and ~miso - 05/22/00 10:20 PM
Don't forget that delicious Japanese miso soup. Mmmmmmm............ Soup.

Posted By: Rob Re: ~phile and ~phobe - 05/23/00 03:27 AM
Sorry Rubrick, pedantry got the better of me.

'Whence' = 'from where', in the same way 'thence' = 'from there'. And 'hence'=...oh I'll stop there.

And shouldn't it be 'Rubric'?

Posted By: Rubrick Re: ~phile and ~phobe - 05/23/00 08:13 AM
Quite right, Rob. I erred on two counts. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me twice!

Rubric is, of course, the correct spelling BUT!!! I have incorporated the word brick into my handle because the Rubrics building (The oldest surviving in Trinity College Dublin) is a quite outstanding red-brick building, whilst the rest are gray stone or modern concrete. So, it was a deliberate act of mis-spelling on my part.

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