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I refer to the Word-A-Day for February 9th, 2010: prevaricate, and the comment under etymology that (latin) varus meant (english) knock-knee. Medical folks know that (latin) valgus means knock-knee, and (latin) varus means bow-leg. Knock-knee refers to legs bent in, while bow-leg refers to legs curving out.

Regards!
M.D.
Today i used this action in my daily routine, just to avert a fight i made things ambiguous, how silly or surprising is it to do something and find a word to be mentioned in your inbox for it. Prevaricate happens mostly in our life..... mostly to be on the safer side.....
Quite confusing. Knock-knee I think we would call X-legs and bow-leg I think O-legs, in non medical terms. I still try to figure out from which angle this problem should be looked at. With X the upper part of the legs are straight, but from the knee down they do not exactly curve out, but just go askew, no?
With bow-legs, do they curve out or rather curve in?
() = bow-legs? /\ = Knock-knee?
think of riding a horse -- cowboys get bowlegged () from all that horse-riding they do!
-cowboy joe
Sure, but would you call this () curving in or curving out?
Originally Posted By: BranShea
Sure, but would you call this () curving in or curving out?


out.


"I love to go swimming with bow-legged women,
And swim between their legs,
Swim between their legs..."
Arbitrary. )(
I have seen reference to bowlegged coming from "bull" legged, which to me would imply a roundness - O (either the shape of the bull [cross-section] or the result of riding one.

arbitrary it may be, but bowlegged refers to the legs bowing out at the knee.
Posted By: olly Re: prevaricate / knock-knee and bow-leg error? - 02/11/10 08:23 PM
Interesting word. I've always described the action as being something akin to lying or evasiveness or concealing but now I know the term. Prevaricate. Would you be being prevaricacious or prevaricatory whilst actioning this word?
actually, W3 suggests prevaricatory and prevaricative as adjectival forms.
You're certainly free to interpret bow-legged or even curving out, any way you like. The standard understanding, at least in the US, is that bow-legged is ().
Originally Posted By: dpcrozier
I refer to the Word-A-Day for February 9th, 2010: prevaricate, and the comment under etymology that (latin) varus meant (english) knock-knee. Medical folks know that (latin) valgus means knock-knee, and (latin) varus means bow-leg. Knock-knee refers to legs bent in, while bow-leg refers to legs curving out.

Regards!
M.D.


My Collins Gem Latin Dictionary agrees with Anu. Valgus, 'bow-legged'. Varus, 'knocked-kneed'. AHD4 seems to more agree with you, giving, in its etymology of prevaricate, varicare, 'to straddle' and for [i]varus[/i it only says 'bent'.
??

varicare, 'to straddle'; you know, like in riding a horse. ()
Even though straddle seems close to saddle etymologically it has nothing to do with it.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: FTR - 02/12/10 11:07 AM
Medical folks know that (latin) valgus means knock-knee, and (latin) varus means bow-leg.

In Latin, valgus means 'bow-legged' (link) and varus means 'knock-kneed' (link). The online medical dictionaries I consulted preserve the original Latin meanings, but at least one said that the two words meanings were often reversed.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: FTR - 02/12/10 05:24 PM
>often reversed.

established by error in some old source and then incessantly inculcated, I suppose?
-joe (source errors 'Я us) friday
Posted By: Zed Re: FTR - 02/13/10 07:23 AM
I don't know about Latin medicine but in Canadian medical terminology valgus is generally considered knock-kneed. Unless it is halux.
Posted By: BranShea Re: FTR - 02/13/10 05:45 PM
Tried to get wise about halux. But they had only this:
hal·lux (hlks) KEY

NOUN:
pl. hal·lu·ces (hly-sz, hl-) KEY
The innermost or first digit on the hind foot of certain mammals. The human hallux is commonly called the big toe.
A homologous digit of a bird, reptile, or amphibian. In birds, it is often directed backward.
Posted By: wofahulicodoc varus and valgus - 02/14/10 06:32 PM
Take the discussion down a joint or three:

Hallux valgus is commonly known as a bunion. The two affected big-toe joints would bang into each other if you walked without shoes.

Now move the image up to your knees. That's knock-kneed, for the analogous reason. The officiousofficial term is genu valgus. That's "genu" as genuflect (= "knee bend").

The bow-legged, concave-in, knee is genu varus.

There is a twisted consistency in that medical terminology.
Posted By: BranShea Re: varus and valgus - 02/14/10 08:07 PM
Yes, that's really clear to see. ( the X-ray )That is what we in every day language call X-legs.;-) I didn't know that toes can be so too.
Posted By: Avy Re: varus and valgus - 02/15/10 12:56 AM
Bandy legged - is also bow legged from the hip I always thought.
Posted By: Jackie Re: varus and valgus - 02/15/10 02:43 AM
Yeah, where'd that word bandy come from, anyway?
Posted By: olly Re: varus and valgus - 02/15/10 03:12 AM
From the OED:

bandy (v.)Bandy was a 17c. Irish game, precursor of field hockey, played with curved a stick (also called a bandy), hence bandy-legged (1680s).
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