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Posted By: Incus Disingenuous - 10/29/07 12:06 PM
Can you help me understand this word?

Frank Rich in the Sunday NY Times on 10/28/07 wrote this sentence: “You have absolutely nothing to fear from me,” Rudy [Giuliani]disingenuously told the assembled at the Values Voter Summit last weekend.

I understand the definition from American Heritage Dictionary: 1. Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating: “an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, who … exemplified … the most disagreeable traits of his time” (David Cannadine).

Wouldn't the root "genuous" mean true, so in-genuous mean not-true (for example, in-sincere). So would dis-in-genuous mean not-not-true, a double negative? Just wondering.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Disingenuous - 10/29/07 12:26 PM
there is no English form genuous, OED gives the derivation as from L. ingenu-us native, inborn, free-born, having the qualities of a freeman, noble, frank (f. in- (IN˛) + gen-, stem of gignere to beget) + -OUS.

this use of the prefix in- was probably meant as an intensive - in any case, it's not a negation.

so, disingenuous is 'not ingenuous'.

note: occasionally the prefix dis- also acts as intensive (but not here, according to the AHD usage mavens).
Posted By: Incus Re: Disingenuous - 10/29/07 12:51 PM
thanks
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Disingenuous - 10/29/07 04:16 PM
this use of the prefix in- was probably meant as an intensive - in any case, it's not a negation

Yes. Another use of in- as an intensive prefix is in inflammable and possibly in irregardless.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Disingenuous - 10/29/07 04:21 PM
Mm--as in, we would say 'he was inflamed by that remark', but never 'he was flamed...'.
We had a thread, or at least a couple of posts, one time, about flammable and inflammable. (Was going to put vs., but.)
Posted By: Zed Re: Disingenuous - 10/29/07 08:10 PM
Disingenuous usually gives me the impression of pretended sincerity and innocence of mind. But that may be becouse I mix it up with ingenue.
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