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Posted By: of troy the ground we walk on.. - 12/18/06 02:22 PM
a few years ago, we collected the various names for the 'staff of life' (ie BREAD--the yeast raised wheat stuff!)

but cross threading, someone mentioned, "we don't call them sidewalks in this neck of the woods"

well, i live in the land of necks (Queens, geographically, if not politically is part of NY's Long Island) and filled with necks..

and here we walk on sidewalks. (unless we are jay walking)

What about you? do you walk the strets? (not quite the same thing as a streetwalker!)
or stick to the pavement?

or something else? --even if just sometimes--do you walk down primrose paths?
Posted By: dalehileman Re: the ground we walk on.. - 12/18/06 04:16 PM
Helen, thank you for that. Incidentally, if "cross threading" means reference to another thread, does the same term apply to the reference to a thread in another forum or board, and if not, are there terms with those meanings--Thanks most kindly--Dale
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 05:15 PM
> reference to a thread in another forum or board

I would think that that would be "cross-boarding".
Posted By: dalehileman Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 05:33 PM
Perhaps so. Than the other would be "cross foruming"

Unless of course that this concept is covered by "cross threading"

However, as a newly fledged de-, I do endorse the latter,even though it might cause confusion by its application to nuts and bolts
Posted By: tsuwm Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 05:42 PM
>a newly fledged de-

detread?
deboard??
deboid?!

Posted By: BranShea Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 06:14 PM
"Come and trip it as you go,
On the light fantastic toe."

This is an air from Handel's : L'allegro, Il Penseroso ed Il Moderato.
A very beautiful secular sort of oratorium on the text of a large poetical work by John Milton.

I guess but am not sure to trip is lighter than to tread?
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 06:22 PM
Quote:

Perhaps so. Than the other would be "cross foruming"

Unless of course that this concept is covered by "cross threading"

However, as a newly fledged de-, I do endorse the latter,even though it might cause confusion by its application to nuts and bolts




well, it depends on how you are using forum. do you mean a totally separate website, "I visited the forum at Macfixit.", or do you mean a different forum (category) on this site?

the latter case would, to me, be the same as cross-threading.
Posted By: of troy Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 06:44 PM
acting (or dancing, on stage) is sometimes called
tripping the light fantanstic, i never knew (or to be honest thought about) the origin of the phrase, but now i wonder if it is from another translation, or just a mis remembered quote.

to trip can be to fall, but you can also take a trip (tour) so tripping can be traveling.

trip used in the quote:
"Come and trip it as you go,
On the light fantastic toe."
is trip (i think) in the sense of travel.

meanwhile does anyone walk an cement?
and is that SEEment or s(a)Ment
(the a really being a schwa)

In NYC, we used to have stone streets (they date back to the dutch government, that first required streets to be paved, the first paved street is still in existance in lower manhattan, is 'stone street' -it was home to most of the breweries)

the stones are commonly called "cobble stones" but are correctly 'belgium paving blocks' -shaped like large bricks, each weights 6 to 10 pounds (circa just under 3 to just about 5 kilos)

in various places, around the city, they remain, hidden under a few inches of 'tar'--black tarmac paving material.

Tar is what we used to call streets, (tar or cobbled) now most kids call the street blacktop
Posted By: AnnaStrophic for Branshea - 12/18/06 06:49 PM
Portuguese for 'cobblestone' is paralelepipido.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: led frightly - 12/18/06 06:56 PM
a newly fledged de-

The Dalebot alleges to be a born-again descriptivist, but I don't believe it; not for a minute. He's the same old, same old. Not even a prescriptivist. Just an annoying bot.
Posted By: TEd Remington cobblestone streets - 12/18/06 08:50 PM
Wilmington NC has a lot of those old streets, and Alexandria, VA, has a few left. The people in Wilmington who live on the cobbled streets are inordinately proud of them. When we were last there we took a horse-drawn tour of the old city, and were told that the City fathers want all the streets paved with macadam, while those who live on the cobbled streets resist such modernization.

In fact, according to the tour docent, the city has paved several of the streets only to find the macadam removed in its entirety the next morning. I took this story with a large grain of salt, but it's a good telling tale.

In years past I have bicycled through old-town Alexandria, and can assure you that cobblestones and bikes are not compatible with one another, particularly if the cobbles are damp. I seem to recall somewhat similar problems in Amsterdam, though the old streets there are smoother than those in Alexandria, which are true stones, four to ten inches in diameter, slightly rounded, and set into a substrate with lots of places for your tires to get caught and turned hither and thither. The stones in the streets in Wilmington did not appear to be as hazardous, though still it would not be a good place for anything other than one of those mountain bike abominations.
Posted By: BranShea Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 09:20 PM
Ach Helen , please forget about the light fantastic toe (the text lies right next to me)(no misremembered quote). It's just a song that came up as I read the word 'tread'. No big deal.
I'm more interested in your cobble stones . Belgium was and is the last country to have them. And one spot in Rotterdam still has them next to the old trading houses at the dockside.
We used to call them "children's heads" Don't know why. Crazy name.
But yes, they are heavy blocks of stone and hard to go on.
Good to know you know them too.

AnnaStrophic , that is cool. I have no other word for it.
I will have peace with that word from now on.

And TEDRemington Cobblestones and bikes are really a tricky combination. Yet Belgium still has bike-racing parcours that includes some cobble roads.But apparantly you know about and biked in many more places
Posted By: of troy Re: tread lightly - 12/18/06 10:01 PM
some where, sometime i read, cobble stones are dressed (shaped) stones with a rounded crown. the top of the stone is about 6 inches (15cm or so) in diameter, and rounding.

belgium paving blocks are bigger (almost twice the size) and brick shaped.

they are smoother too. they still give horses traction--though not as much as cobble stones.

(they are smoother than cobble stones, but still bone jarring, even in a car with rubber tires and a good suspension system!)

there are still streets (in tribeca--ie, just a few blocks north of the WTC site) that have not been paved over.

Residents like them, because they inhibit speeding.
Posted By: BranShea Re: tread lightly - 12/19/06 09:33 AM
For anyone maybe still wanting to check out the 'light fantastic toe':

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton/reading_room/l'allegro/index.shtml

trip...toe. Here, "trip" means to step or dance full of life and vigor; "fantastic," fancifully imagined.


read down and find the tiny link 'trip' No big deal but just nice.

Nice poetry associated with walk tread step or trip , to memorize while biking or walking on cobblestones.
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: tread lightly - 12/19/06 01:16 PM
Quote:



AnnaStrophic , that is cool. I have no other word for it.
I will have peace with that word from now on.





Yes, it is a cool word. Too bad Gilbert & Sullivan didn't use any Portuguese in their operettas -- this would have fit right in.
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