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Posted By: Bingley Juggernaut - 10/31/03 07:08 AM
Anu has missed the most common use of this word in the UK -- a long articulated lorry, usually when they are being held responsible for traffic accidents.

Bingley
Posted By: wwh Re: Juggernaut - 10/31/03 12:58 PM
Dear Bingley: I never heard anybody else say it, but my idea of a juggernaut is an extrawide looging truck on Canadian highways with lanes narrowed by heavy snow, coming at you at 70mph, when your defrosters and wipers have not yet warmed up enough to work, and jets of window washers are frozen shut.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Juggernaut - 10/31/03 05:42 PM
Good heavens, my first thought was a submarine, as in "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea". But I think Anu's "A massive relentless force...that crushes everything in its path." covers it. Unless Juggernaut is an actual manufacturer of these trucks? Whatever articulated trucks are. I've always thought of juggernaut as a descriptive noun, not a literal one.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Articulated trucks - 10/31/03 06:40 PM
... are like articulated buses, Jackie, only different. HTH

Posted By: Bingley Re: Juggernaut - 11/01/03 01:27 AM
e.g.: http://www.dreamcatchers.co.uk/SPECIALIST DRIVING.html

Bingley
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Juggernaut - 11/01/03 01:34 PM
Bingley,

"The parameter is incorrect." (?) Is it maybe my old Netscape?

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Juggernaut - 11/01/03 01:49 PM
old Netscape

I would guess so. get Mozilla
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.2.1/
works and looks pretty much like Netscape, but is much more standards compliant...
this assumes you are not using OSX. if you are, just go to http://www.mozilla.org. I actually prefer their browser called Camino. it's just a browser without an email client built in.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Juggernaut - 11/01/03 04:17 PM
Bingley, I couldn't tell from your link whether Juggernaut is the manufacturer or not.
Aside--obviously my, um, browser worked. Is Windows 98 a browser? Anyway, that's what I have. I've heard several people here mention that M-----a thing and how great it is. I've never gone to try and look at it, and hope I don't ever have to: couldn't they have called it something a bit more...appetizing?

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Juggernaut - 11/01/03 06:35 PM
>Is Windows 98 a browser?

no, W98 is an Operating System (OS); you are prolly using the MS browser which comes bundled with it: Internet Explorer (IE), and I know you use MS OutlookExpress for email.

Microsoft is a Juggernaut.
-joe (stating the obvious, ron) friday
Posted By: Jackie Re: Juggernaut - 11/02/03 02:43 AM
Thanks, tsuwm. In return...
A man we shall call A. Truck Driver decided to enter the contest he'd recently heard about. All the contestants had to do was to up and drive their big rigs from Monkey's Eyebrow, through and around Pikeville, and back. Pikeville (or Packvul, as it's known to the locals), for you uninitiated, doesn't have one square inch of flat land, plus it's got a passel of narrow streets, one lane bridges, and such like, so this contest wasn't as easy as it might sound. First prize was a bottle of the best moonshine around. Second prize was the shoat that had taken the blue ribbon at the county fair; and third prize was a half-grown rooster, offspring of the champeen fightin' cock, Big Henry's Lasher. There were checkpoints along the route, to make sure the drivers weren't speeding. Other than that, they could use whatever wiles they could think of to try and beat each other to the narrow places. Now, old A. Truck was from way up a holler in the mountains of eastern Kentucky, and he was long used to driving a coal truck through the area. He was the sure-fire winner, he figured, and wasn't shy about lettin' other folks know it. Finally his wife, thinking he might be in for a disappointment, said, "A. Truck, what if you don't get there the quickest? What if you're only second or third?" And he said, "Naw, Bobbie Jean--I'm gonna win the jug, or naught".

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Juggernaut - 11/02/03 02:58 AM
TEd!!! where are you?

I did groan, Jackie. that's a good thing!

Posted By: Jackie Re: Juggernaut - 11/02/03 03:14 AM
Thanks, eta. Yes, everybody write to Ted and tell him he has to come here and do better, so as to spare you all from such as what I wrote. (Hey--whatever works!)

Posted By: dxb Re: Juggernaut - 11/03/03 02:23 PM
Please, what's a shoat? Is it a cross between a sheep and a goat?

Posted By: of troy Re: Juggernaut - 11/03/03 04:14 PM
some one will give exactly, but a shoat is pig--

i think a female,(sow) who has not yet been bred-- so full grown, but not yet proven to be a good breeder.. (or it could be a pig under 1 year in age... again, bigger than a piglet, but not what ever you call a full grown pig! )

we did have a thread about animal 'names' like chick, pullet, hen, and the same for pigs, and cattle,ie., calf, cow/bull, steer, oxen..so you could search here....

Posted By: Jackie Re: Juggernaut - 11/03/03 04:19 PM
Thank you, dxb and Helen--I was hoping to create a speck of curiosity and enlightenment, as well as be silly.

Posted By: of troy Re: Juggernaut - 11/03/03 05:11 PM
so was i right? an unbred sow under 1 year of age=shoat?

i am sure the name is used in UK too, i seem to remember it from one of the "All Creatures Great and Small" series...(which i first read, and later watched).

Posted By: wwh Re: shoat - 11/03/03 07:12 PM
I looked at a half dozen online dictionaries, and they all said just "young pig" or "young hog". None of them specified sex.

Posted By: maverick Re: Juggernaut - 11/03/03 08:36 PM
an unbred sow under 1 year of age=shoat?

= gilt

(dunno about shoat - sounds like a <messy> goat)

edit to clarify: I simply don't know anything about that word, not doubting the alternative.

Posted By: wwh Re: Juggernaut - 11/03/03 09:06 PM
Another obsolete word for pig = scrofa
Scrofula = little pig = enlarged lymph glands (which allegely looked like baby pigs)presumably related to ingestion of milk from cow with bovine tuberculosis = "kings evil", allegedly curable by touch of a king. Trivia, Sam Johnson had scrofula.

Posted By: belMarduk Re: Juggernaut - 11/04/03 01:58 AM
...truck on Canadian highways with lanes narrowed by heavy snow, coming at you at 70mph, when your defrosters and wipers have not yet warmed up enough to work, and jets of window washers are frozen shut.

Had some bad experiences on our highways, have you Bill?


Posted By: wwh Re: Juggernaut - 11/04/03 03:13 AM
Dear belMarduk: My oldest daughter became Canadian citizen, because she and her husband bought a farm on PEI. I have three grand-daughters and a great-grandson in Canada. Sadly, I can't drive to see them any more. I used to drive 700 mile from MA to PEI, stopping at motel not far from border,and early in AM drive to ferry at Cape Tormentine.
That was the stretch where the logging trucks were so scary.

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