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Posted By: wwh Byzantine business - 10/17/02 10:31 PM
We've all heard of "iconoclasts" who delighted in desroying beautiful religious images.
I just found out that their opposites were called "iconodules". So far haven't been
able to find etymology of "iconodule".

Second page said suffix if iconodule is from Greek "loudos" meaning servant or slave. How do
you get "dule" from "loudos"?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Byzantine business - 10/17/02 11:53 PM
How do you get "dule" from "loudos"?

Metathesis.

Or either it's from doulos, slave, bondsman, as per OED.
Posted By: wwh Re: Byzantine business - 10/18/02 01:23 PM
Dear Faldage: I found a site you might like:
http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=1401
Doulos

doo'-los
Parts of Speech
TDNT

Noun

2:261,182
Definition

1.a slave, bondman, man of servile condition
a.a slave
b.metaph., one who gives himself up to
another's will those whose service is used
by Christ in extending and advancing his
cause among men
c.devoted to another to the disregard of
one's own interests
2.a servant, attendant

But when I searched that site for "loudos" it could not find it. I wonder if site where I found
"loudos" made an error?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Byzantine business - 10/18/02 01:27 PM
I wonder if site where I found "loudos" made an error?

I'll go with that, Dr. Bill. It's easy enough to confuse a lowercase delta and a lowercase lambda in small print.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Byzantine business - 10/18/02 03:19 PM
iconodule<>iconolater<>idolater

Posted By: wwh Re: Byzantine business - 10/18/02 03:50 PM
Dear tsuwm: But calling the iconodules idolaters was stupid nastiness. I now forget the name
of the Saint who pointed out that the icons were not being worshipped, they were just
mnemonics to remind the faithful to whom to pray. Even in England there was deplorable
destruction of art work at cathedral at Ely, if I remember correctly. Goddam religious zealots.
Not long ago there was report of somebody vandalizing Michelangelo's sculpture of Mary
holding dead Jesus in her lap. The Pietà I think is the name.

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