Wordsmith.org
Why invent (or backform) 'sipid' as the antonym of 'insipid'?
Who banished 'sapid' [having savor or flavor; palatable (Webster's Collegiate, 5th ed)] into outer darkness?

sipid...sapid

Do we have us a case of reverse umlaut going on here?

Posted By: wwh Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/18/02 03:02 PM
innocuous is very common, I have never seen "nocuous" until I just now looked it up. Perhaps "noxious" took its place.

Posted By: Keiva Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/18/02 05:26 PM
Now don't be uncouth, dr. bill.
[Would "anastrophic" count?]

Posted By: Keiva Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/18/02 05:30 PM
And by the way, clyde, that was a SUPERB question. Thank you, and welcome aboard!

Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/18/02 06:58 PM
Dear Keiva: I cannot be "kempt" because a washcloth is all I need. But I manage to be unkempt for all of that.

Posted By: slithy toves Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/18/02 09:42 PM
"Wait'll you hear this!" he said chalantly.

Posted By: Keiva Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/18/02 09:45 PM
Very eptly done, slithy.

Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/18/02 10:09 PM
"What did I do wrong?" he asked nocently.

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/19/02 12:28 PM

My cousin gave me a book of poems written by Felicia Lamport and illustrated by Edward Gorey which contains one about "souciance."


k


Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/20/02 02:22 AM
My impressions of this matter are quite delible, markable, and phatic.





The Only WO'N!
Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/20/02 01:19 PM
markable and phatic? Bad form, old boy.

Posted By: Keiva Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/20/02 11:10 PM
dr. bill, is it thinkable that W'ON would have no rationale that makes his post explicable? Let's be more gonistic.

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/20/02 11:25 PM
markable and phatic? Bad form, old boy.

re em > reem > I guess I just got reemed, huh?


The Only WO'N!
Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/21/02 01:36 AM
Dear WO'N: you reminded me of my wife's favorite grandfather, a traveling salesman, who picked up a lot of salty expressions from his companions, and got revenge for being henpecked by teaching his wife and my mother-in-law some of them, which they repeated totally unaware of the indecent content. So I had trouble keeping my face straight when my mother-in-law would complain about having been "rimmed" in an unsatisfactory purchase.He also taught them to describe being detained by pointless conversation as being "hung up by the tongue." I had to explain that to my wife to keep her from using it. She had trouble believing her dear sweet grandfather could be so devious.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/21/02 08:36 AM
AWAD members can cut the mustard!

WW m.m.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/21/02 02:52 PM
this was Anu's theme of the week a while back:

http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=weeklythemes&Number=12440

(and, of course, Quinion)
http://www.quinion.com/words/articles/unpaired.htm
Posted By: belMarduk Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/21/02 03:01 PM
FF: My cousin gave me a book of poems written by Felicia Lamport and illustrated by Edward Gorey which contains one about "souciance."

I can see where this would happen FF, since souciance is a word commonly used in French - so is insouciance. Correct me if I'm wrong all you word etymology mavens out there but insouciance looks like it has been borrowed from the French.

Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/21/02 04:25 PM
And for those who may be interested in WW's "cut the mustard" here is Quinion's (www.worldwidewords.com) URL about it:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-cut1.htm

Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/21/02 04:29 PM
And for those who may be interested in WW's "cut the mustard" here is Quinion's (www.worldwidewords.com) URL about it: When I tested it, it worked only with edit,copy,,,edit, paste

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-cut1.htm

"ana" is not a negative. YCLIU

"ana" is not a negative. YCLIU


From Merriam-Webster's:

Main Entry: ana-
Variant(s): or an-
Function: prefix
Etymology: Latin, from Greek, up, back, again, from ana up -- more at ON
1 : up : upward <anabolism>
2 : back : backward <anatropous>


Backward is postive?

And what about anaphrodisia?





The Only WO'N!
re: And what about anaphrodisia?

Juan-- what part of getting up is negative?

back can be a return, or in anastrophia, a back(wards) formation of a sentence. not negative.. Order reversed, still, meaning clear.not very good at that on the spur of the moment.


Posted By: wwh Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/21/02 08:23 PM
Dear WO'N: what is a "phrodisiac"?

Dear WO'N: what is a "phrodisiac"?

Oh, that's easy, Dr. Bill! Aphro-disiac is a sexual stimulant you find growing in Africa!



The Only WO'N!
Posted By: Keiva Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/22/02 12:44 AM
"ana" is not a negative.

Agreed. Reversal is akin to negation, each being a kind of "opposite", but is not identical. So whether anastrophic fits this thread depends on how widely the net of this tread is cast [hence my question mark].

Posted By: wwh Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/22/02 02:25 AM
Dear WO'N: I would watch the discards if I played poker with you.

Dear WO'N: I would watch the discards if I played poker with you.

Huh, Dr. Bill? Are you talkin' about dis card or dat card?



The Only WO'N!
Are you talkin' about dis card or dat card?

nah, he's suspicious of the W'ON you've got up your sleeve ;)

nah, he's suspicious of the W'ON you've got up your sleeve ;)

Hey, mav...aren't those Aces 'n' Eights you're holding?...I'd be awfully careful if I were you!





The Only WO'N!
what part of getting up is negative?

Well, since nobody picked up on it...first of all, it's an.aphrodisiac (I cheated), and secondly, here's the def from Merriam-Webster's:

Main Entry: an·aph·ro·di·si·ac
Pronunciation: "a-"na-fr&-'dE-zE-"ak, -zhE-, -'di-zE-
Function: adjective
Date: 1823
: inhibiting or discouraging sexual desire
- anaphrodisiac noun


See, Helen, there's nothing upgetting about that!

The Only WO'N!
Posted By: Keiva Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/22/02 06:26 PM
W'ON!!! Have we neglected to congratulate you on your pooh-bahity???

Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!


Posted By: Bingley Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/23/02 04:47 AM
>"What did I do wrong?" he asked nocently. (Dr. Bill)

>Not yet in horrid Shade or dismal Den
Nor nocent yet, but on the grassy Herb
Fearless unfeared he slept
(John Milton: Paradise Lost Book IX 185-7)

Bingley
watch the discards

You peek at the discards I ain' playin no poker with *you, Dr. Bill. You won' need no aces and eights.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 04/25/02 02:08 PM
one more link..

http://members.cruzio.com/~spitzer/metMyWife.html

()
Posted By: dxb Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/29/02 04:19 PM
This thread was full of effable beauty.

dxb

Posted By: doc_comfort Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/29/02 10:55 PM
This thread was full of effable beauty

We'll have none of that language around here, thank you!!

Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/29/02 11:17 PM
As long as the effable beauty is not pictured in action, what's the beef?

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/30/02 03:59 AM
As long as the effable beauty is not pictured in action, what's the beef?

Yeahbut®, what good is effable beauty if it's not nocuous?


The Only WO'N!
Posted By: wwh Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/30/02 01:33 PM
Dear WO'N : If you were an effable beauty, would you want to have somebody noccuoup?

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Comment in the postive form - 04/30/02 02:54 PM
noccuoup?

LOL!!








The Only WO'N!
This thread is certainly ane.

And it has given a horrifying new meaning to the term deliver.

Yep, Sparteye!...ane and ebriate!...that's how I like 'em!

The Only WO'N!
It is also advertently satiable.
But not to worry: I am neither pervious nor perturbable.

Posted By: Keiva Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 07/02/02 01:41 PM
Would it be anticlimactic to revive this thread?

Posted By: wwh Re: Words better known in their negative forms - 07/02/02 01:52 PM
Keiva: you started a flamewar, and would not quit.
You were banned, and got back only by shameful threat
of a lawsuit Wordsmith could not ;afford.
You are contemptible, and unwelcome to post here.

© Wordsmith.org