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Posted By: PT47 Flagitious - 05/28/12 01:08 PM
Your commentary makes me think of the rap contest finale in the movie, "Eight Mile," starring Eminem: A formally sanctioned verbal duel.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Flagitious - 05/28/12 03:27 PM
OK.
Welcome.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Flagitious - 05/29/12 02:38 PM
Sounds cool, PT, and welcome aBoard!

Flagitious has to have the same root as flagrant, surely? And what about flogging? People got flogged if they flagrantly violated the law. (Gosh, I keep wanting to type fragrant!)

And this: A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
The greatest obstacle to discovering the shape of the earth, the continents, and the oceans was not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge. -Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, professor, attorney, and writer (1914-2004)

Now, there is some food for thought indeed. How many times have all of us come across (or been in) situations where we or someone else thought we knew what was going on but came to find out we didn't? Ex.: multitudes of people, from the movers to today, have looked at my address and thought they knew where my house is. Then the phone call comes.
Or--I read in one of my Dick Francis books that between 80 and 100 solo hours are when pilots are most dangerous, because by 80 hours they think they know enough and by 100, they know they don't.
Posted By: Faldage Re: Flagitious - 05/29/12 06:09 PM
Originally Posted By: Jackie


Flagitious has to have the same root as flagrant, surely?


Nope.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Flagitious - 05/30/12 02:03 AM
flagitious
"shamefully wicked, criminal," late 14c., from O.Fr. flagicieux or directly from L. flagitiosus "shameful, disgraceful, infamous," from flagitium "shameful act, passionate deed, disgraceful thing," related to flagrum "a whip, scourge, lash," flagitare "to demand importunately," from PIE root *bhlag- "to strike." Related: Flagitiously; flagitiousness.

flagrant
c.1500, "resplendent," from L. flagrantem (nom. flagrans) "burning, blazing, glowing," figuratively "glowing with passion, eager, vehement," prp. of flagrare "to burn, blaze, glow" from L. root *flag-, corresponding to PIE *bhleg- "to shine, flash, burn" (cf. Gk. phlegein "to burn, scorch," L. fulgere "to shine"), from root *bhel- (1) "to shine, flash, burn" (see bleach). Sense of "glaringly offensive" first recorded 1706, probably from common legalese phrase in flagrante delicto "red-handed," lit. "with the crime still blazing." Related: Flagrantly.
(same source as Faldage)

Man--that just doesn't seem right, somehow! But at least I was closer on flogging. Thanks.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Flagitious - 05/30/12 02:20 AM
a. PIE *bhlag-

b. PIE *bhleg-

it's sort of like the difference between champ and chump!
Posted By: BranShea Re: Flagitious - 05/30/12 06:42 PM
To unite the words you can always try to catch the flagitious one in flagrante delicto.
Posted By: Jackie Re: Flagitious - 06/02/12 02:22 AM
it's sort of like the difference between champ and chump! Just like you and me! smile (I get the u.)
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