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Posted By: Wordwind Leopards and Jaguars - 08/26/03 10:51 PM
How would you go about describing the difference between the spotted leopard and the spotted jaguar? (I say 'spotted' here because both species have solid-colored types.)

I'm just curious in hearing how you, as writers, would describe the difference between the jaguar and leopard spots. I would say the jaguar has a spot within the spots and the leopard doesn't. I'd love to have a more sophisticated (or clinical, even) way of describing the difference between the two types of spots.

Posted By: wwh Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/26/03 10:57 PM
Jaguar spots move twice as fast as leopard spots.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/26/03 11:45 PM
Ha!!!!!!!! That was a great response, wwh!!! Can't wait to quote you to my kids at school. Big:

Posted By: Faldage Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/26/03 11:48 PM
Pictures of each

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/jaguar.jpg

http://www.fr.ch/mhn/divers/kenya-image/leopard.jpg

Incidentally, the solid colored leopard, at least, is also spotted. It's just black spots on a black body, so it's kinda hard to see.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 12:06 AM
In reply to:

It's just black spots on a black body, so it's kinda hard to see.



Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll quote you to my kids, too, Faldage, even though I know you're telling the truth. Point will be: Ain't truth witty?

Posted By: wwh Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 12:11 AM
After looking at Faldage's pictures, I notice that the jaguar has fewer total spots. The leopard's more closelly spaced spots would be more effective in somewhat dense cover, where they would do most of their hunting. The jaguar is a speed specialist, and needs to blend in with cover surrounding a wide open area, where its speed can be useful. I remember seeing it stated that their sprints are over seventy miles per hour.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 01:34 AM
seventy miles per hour

I'd heard that about cheetahs, but never jaguars. very fast.

and remember, cheetahs never win...

Posted By: sjmaxq Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 03:10 AM
The jaguar is a speed specialist, and needs to blend in with cover surrounding a wide open area, where its speed can be useful. I remember seeing it stated that their sprints are over seventy miles per hour.


Are you sure you aren't mixing your cats, Dr. Bill? I have never read anything of jaguars' having the same speed as cheetahs, and your description of them as speed specialists definitely fits the cheetah, which does hunt on wide open areas. From the encarta article on jaguars: "The head and body are massive, and the legs are relatively short and thick. An adept climber and an excellent swimmer". The undisputed sprint champ, the cheetah has a verydifferent physique. It can't climb well, has only semi-retractable claws, and has very lean, long legs. Given that its design is very different from that of the jaguar, I would love to see any reference anywhere to jaguars' being able to match the cheetah in speed.

Posted By: wwh Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 12:59 PM
Sorry I was cheat ah ing.
What's worse, I was actually eating some Cheetos.

Posted By: of troy Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 02:02 PM
at the Wild Asia exhibit in the bronx zoo, one of the leopards (a black one) is behind glass, not bars... but he often posititions himself near one of the vents in the glass, were he (she) can push his nose up against it, and smell the other animals..
the flicks of the tail indicate intrest.
because of this, the leopard is often lying still, and you can clearly see the different shades of color black in the spots.


Posted By: tsuwm Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 02:11 PM
>because of this, the leopard is often lying still..

aren't big cats like the garden-variety house cat in that they sleep most of the time anyway?

Posted By: wwh Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 02:59 PM
Here are photos of cheetahs that enlarge when clicke on:
http://www.ecobeetle.com/cheetah.htm

Posted By: Faldage Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 03:14 PM
Jeez, Dr B, I don' want no cheetahs what enlarges when I click on them. Sounds awful dangerest. Or either I ain' gone click on them, one.

Posted By: wwh Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 06:15 PM
Dear Faldage: Scaredy cat. Cheetahs'll never bite you.
But cougars are something else.
"Mountain lion attacks on people have increased dramatically since 1986. For example, in California, there were two fatal attacks in 1890 and 1909, and then no further attacks for 77 years, until 1986. From 1986 through 1995, ten verified attacks occurred, an average rate of one per year. That average rate has continued through 1999. Attacks are now numerous enough that there is a support group for attack victims, called California Lion Awareness (CLAW; Outside, 10/95). Since 1970 there has been an average of 14 cougar attacks per year on people in the entire U.S. " Somewhere I read that there have been ten fatal cougar attacks. Without their being clicked on.



Posted By: Faldage Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 06:17 PM
Cheetahs'll never bite you

Mebbe regler ones won't. Never kin tell bout them enlarged ones.

Posted By: wwh Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 08:36 PM
Dear Faldage: one of my friends told her little boy not to touch the tiger lilies, because "The tigers might get you!"
A few minutes later she looked out and all the tiger lilies has been pulled up. She went out intending to punish him, but was unable to when he announced proudly:"Damn tigers didn't get me!"
And I have a mouse that can delete enlarged cheetahs.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 09:14 PM
Mebbe regler ones won't. Never kin tell bout them enlarged ones.

are you channeling GallantTed?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Leopards and Jaguars - 08/27/03 10:01 PM
channeling GallantTed?

Ah ont thank so

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