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Posted By: Wordwind woodpecker: Emanuela? - 09/15/02 09:30 AM
woodpecker

Turkish: aðaçkakan
German: Specht
French: pic
Italian: picchio
Spanish: pájaro carpintero

The above is from the Langtolang email mailing I've just started receiving. My question: In noticing the "pic" root, I wonder whether there's any connection between that root and the word "piccolo"? Emanuela?



Posted By: wwh Re: woodpecker: Emanuela? - 09/15/02 01:22 PM
Dear WW: I suspect emanuela will tell you "piccolo" = small is from a different root.
Did you every hear Pete go tweet,tweet tweet on his piccolo?

Posted By: emanuela Re: woodpecker: Emanuela? - 09/15/02 01:37 PM
Right, Bill, even if I am not sure, I have to check at home.
Anyway, picchio is obviously related to the verbe picchiare = to hit, to tap on, to knock at...
obviously referring at his hitting the wood.

Posted By: Faldage Re: woodpecker: Emanuela? - 09/15/02 01:54 PM
My question now is, where did the pic in piccolo come from? The -olo is obviously from the Latin diminutive suffix -ula/o.

Posted By: Wordwind Scansorial - 09/15/02 02:40 PM
Just to add a slim picking to the woodpecker lexicon:

The woodpecker is described as one of the scansorial birds, scansorial meaning "climbing."

Posted By: wofahulicodoc picolomini - 09/21/02 07:34 PM
I think we'll find the root means "small," the piccolo being a very small and high-pitched (read: "shrill") flute-like wind instrument

Recall that the prefix pico- means a very small part of something (one out of ten-to-the-ninth; a thousandth of a millionth)

Posted By: wwh Re: woodpecker - 09/21/02 07:55 PM
I've often wondered howcome a woodpecker's brain doesn't get homogenized
by his jackhammer excavating squarewave oscillations.

Posted By: Faldage Re: picolomini - 09/21/02 08:26 PM
the prefix pico- means a very small part of something

But it derives through Spanish from picar, to prick. AHD lists piccolo as of obscure origin.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: picolomini - 09/21/02 08:48 PM
In reply to:

But it derives through Spanish from picar, to prick. AHD lists piccolo as of obscure origin.


Well, then, the prick/piccolo connection could be the pricking effect of the sound itself. Very different from the flute, I think. Think of "Stars and Stripes Forever"--the little piccolo solo that pricks the air with bursts of aural pinpoint notes. I suppose we could call the piccolo the prickolo... Sounds like the perfect instrument for a nit-picker.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: diminutives - 09/21/02 11:37 PM
As Peter Schickele points out, the only two orchestral instruments that are adjectives are piano and piccolo.

Posted By: wwh Re: diminutives - 09/21/02 11:47 PM
What does a bassist play?

Posted By: Wordwind Re: diminutives - 09/22/02 12:02 AM
rimshot, wwh!

Posted By: wofahulicodoc Hey Abbott! - 09/22/02 12:05 AM
What does a bassist play?

I don't know. (He's on third.)

And there are other instruments whose names have other usages - harp, trumpet, drum, horn are also verbs.

Posted By: wwh Re: diminutives - 09/22/02 12:07 AM
Dear WW: are you teasing me? I searched for "rimshot" a couple days ago, and site
said it was musical term for drummer beating rim of drum. And I had stupidly thought
it meant sparteye's team scoring without ball touching rim of hoop!

Posted By: doc_comfort Re: woodpecker - 09/23/02 12:03 AM
I've often wondered howcome a woodpecker's brain doesn't get homogenized by his jackhammer excavating squarewave oscillations.

Maybe his brain *isn't in his pecker...

Posted By: emanuela Re: diminutives - 09/27/02 02:58 PM
I do not agree, piano is not an adjective, it is an adverbe
piano = slowly

Posted By: Wordwind Re: piano: adj. and adv. - 09/27/02 03:25 PM
In English, piano may be used as either an adjective or an adverb.

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