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#83489 10/13/02 02:15 AM
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Report said this was a favorite vacation spot for Australian nationals. Isn't stales on holiday? Anybody have his home e-mail to see if he's around? Or, if you see this stales, please check in (also all our other friends from OZ).

Also, Bingley, please be vigilant, wherever you are (I know you're in Jakarta, but).


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http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20021013_25.html

[from the report]

Among the dead, injured and missing are nationals from Australia, Britain, France, Germany, New Zealand, Sweden and Indonesia.

(more horrid madness...too much, just too much of it...)







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from the BBC:

http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/archive/headlines/article/101471915.html

This is the worst act of terrorism since September 11th.

"The Australian Prime Minister, John Howard, has described the bombing as a national tragedy for Australia, and Australians."

Also among the missing are many members of some of Australia's most prominent professional sports teams.

I reach out with my heart to the people of Australia and all our friends here on this board in the face of such horror and senseless slaughter, and certainly hope that no one we know here has been directly touched by these tragic events. Too sad, just too sad.






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This is indeed a tragedy; and it makes no sense to me. Sympathies to all the victims. I have to say that, since it DID happen, I was quite relieved that it was not Jakarta. Bingley is fine.


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An unthinkable crime by unspeakable bastards.

I hope there is a hell in which these slimy cowards can slowly burn.


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Oh, for Pete's sake, it's just another bunch of extremists doing their thing! Sad, but almost inevitable. Indonesia has been boiling for damned years now, and probably only Bingley and the OzZilders on the Board would have noticed. Nobody with any sense has been going to Bali for months. The violence there has been escalating since early last year. It's probably only a matter of good luck that no group has decided to target tourists before now.

Indonesia has had religious riots in Java, in Sumatra, in Borneo, in fact, damned near everywhere. Did you know that the dominant religion in Bali is the Hindu faith? There are sectarian murders going on on almost a daily basis in Irian Jaya. West Timor is a dangerous place to be. I read that the army was probably involved in the bombing, and that is damned normal, too.

I'm sorry for the people who've been killed and their relatives, but the writing was on the wall for anyone to read. My wife's cousin and a friend of ours both decided against Bali as a holiday destination over the last year because of the unrest, although the other dangers - rampant tourism and bad water - should have been enough to put them off anyway. I'd be surprised that there were so many Singaporeans there except that they are probably nearly all expats, going by their names. There didn't appear to be any Chinese, Indian or Malay names among them. Singaporeans are normally very careful.

Sorry to appear so callous, but it annoys the bejeezus out of me that people deliberately put themselves in harm's way with their eyes wide shut!



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Nobody with any sense has been going to Bali for months.

Well, when the other option is NZ...


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Nobody with any sense has been going to Bali for months.

Well, when the other option is NZ...

Ouch! Rat-tat-tat, mate!




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when the other option is NZ

Oz is, of course, not an option.


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CapK's comments may sound a little unsympathetic, but I wholeheartedly endorse the thrust of them. Many of my friends have put off plans to visit Bali in the last few months, because anybody who bothers to read anything could have seen this coming a mile away. I too am genuinely sorry for those who are grieving, but that doesn't change the fact that visiting Bali (or anywhere else in the Indonesian empire) has been very high on the list of spectacularly unsound holiday choices for a very long time.


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