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#77062 07/28/02 12:36 AM
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Perhaps it is our hot summer weather that has made me more aware of cold things lately. But it recently struck me that iced tea is almost invariably spelled with the 'd' on the end of ice, but very cold water is always ice water. Does anybody know why this is so?


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Ice water is the result of ice melting. Of course it is usually an addition of ice to tap water.
But tea, when you add ice to it is iced tea. Just as when you add salt to things, they are salted.
But now I'd rather have Liptons Cold Brew tea. Very good, and no work.


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I don't know why, Jackie, but it's a cool question!

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Good question, Jackie, and great answer, Dr Bill!

How do y'all stress the words? I emphasize the first word in "ice water" and the second in "iced tea."


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i would say iced water,and iced tea. i vaguely remember reading recently on the board that iced tea was invented in america by an english man. maybe it's another english/american thing


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Dear dodyskin: my dictionary gives "ice" as a transitive verb:
vt.
iced, icing
1 to change into ice; freeze
2 to cover with ice; apply ice to
3 to cool by putting ice on, in, or



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How 'bout iced cake?


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Putting icing on cake is a stingy way of making the cake last longer by
preventing loss of moisture. I can remember deliberately slamming kitchen
door, to make cake fall, so my mother would not put frosting on it, and
I could take large pieces without her remonstrating.I like very moist cake.


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"i vaguely remember reading recently on the board that iced tea was invented in america by an english man."

Invented on a hot day at the St. Louis World's Fair of 1904 or so, by a tea vendor who was trying to boost sagging sales.


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Hi Quayle: Yes, the World's Fair was held in St Louis in 1904. I suppose that the Fair is best known now from the 1944 movie Meet me in St Louis, but before then it was perhaps remembered by the song (written in 1904 by Andrew Sterling and Kerry Mills) which tells a fascinating domestic story:

When Louis came home to the flat,
He hung up his coat and his hat,
He gazed all around, but no wifey he found,
So he said "Where can Flossie be at?"
A note on the table he spied,
He read it just once, then he cried.
It ran, "Louis dear, it's too slow for me here,
So I think I will go for a ride."

[All together now]

Meet me in St Louis, Louis,
Meet me at the fair,
Don't tell me the lights are shining any place but there;
We will dance the Hoochee Koochee,
I will be your tootsie wootsie;
If you will meet me in St Louis, Louis,
Meet me at the fair.

The dresses that hung in the hall
Were gone, she had taken them all;
She took all his rings and the rest of his things;
The picture he missed from the wall.
"What! moving!" the janitor said,
"Your rent is paid three months ahead."
"What good is the flat?" said poor Louis, "Read that."
And the janitor smiled as he read. [Chorus]

Incidentally, does the Hoochee Koochee have any link with the 'Cooch'[sp?] dances at Coney Island referred to in Leonard Bernstein's On the town?


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