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Posted By: Hydra -esce words - 12/15/06 07:08 AM
Can anyone add more -esce words to this list?

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acquiesce verb accept something reluctantly but without protest
coalesce verb come together and form one mass or whole.
convalesce verb recover one's health and strength over a period of time after an illness
detumesce verb the process of subsiding from a state of tension, swelling, or sexual arousal.
defervesce verb (of a fever) to abate as indicated by a decrease in bodily temperature.
deliquesce verb become liquid, typically during decomposition.
effervesce verb (of a liquid) give off bubbles.
effloresce verb lose moisture and turn to a fine powder upon exposure to air; bloom; ripen.
evanesce verb pass out of sight, memory, or existence.
fluoresce verb shine or glow brightly due to fluorescence.
intumesce verb (rare) swell up.
incandesce verb glow with heat.
luminesce verb emit light by luminescence.
obsolesce verb becoming obsolete.
phosphoresce verb emit light or radiation.
putresce verb to become putrescent or putrid.
recrudesce verb break out again; recur.
senesce verb (of a living organism) deteriorate with age.


Posted By: Faldage Re: -esce words - 12/15/06 11:11 AM
Adolesce
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: -esce words - 12/15/06 12:56 PM
more -esce words

Ah, inchoative verbs in -sk-. Lovely.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: -esce words - 12/15/06 01:20 PM
there are ~37 -esce verbs listed in OED online; some of these come with the usual OED caveat (i.e., those that have been obsolesced or are rarefied).

here's one:
frondesce - To put forth leaves.
.how cool is that?

and another:
rejuvenesce - To become young again; spec. in Biol. of cells: To acquire renewed vitality.
Posted By: Myridon Re: -esce words - 12/15/06 03:58 PM
Go to www.onelook.com, enter *esce.

1. -esce
2. accresce
3. acquiesce
4. adolesce
5. cesce
6. cirotesce
7. coalesce
8. compesce
9. concresce
10. convalesce
11. defervesce
12. deliquesce
13. effervesce
14. effloresce
15. evanesce
16. fluoresce
17. frondesce
18. gaetano pesce
19. hugo pesce
20. incandesce
21. intumesce
22. iridesce
23. latinesce
24. lesce
25. luminesce
26. mark pesce
27. obsolesce
28. opalesce
29. pesce
30. phosphoresce
31. putresce
32. quiesce
33. recalesce
34. recrudesce
35. rejuvenesce
36. senesce
37. tumesce
38. turgesce
39. uncoalesce
40. vesce
Posted By: BranShea Re: -esce words - 12/15/06 07:36 PM
Jee--! excescive esces!
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: -esce words - 12/16/06 03:12 PM
Is an esce chat a logical thing to have here?
Posted By: AnnaStrophic the end days - 12/17/06 03:13 PM
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... esce chat a logical ...




You do stretch, doncha, TEd.

Posted By: TEd Remington Re: the end days - 12/17/06 11:10 PM
And what chance is it that I will ever gain get to make a play on the word eschatological?
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: the end days - 12/18/06 12:39 AM
well, poop. I thought it was a good one, TEd.
Posted By: Faldage Re: the end days - 12/18/06 01:57 AM
Wull, if it *sounded anything like eschatalogical.

Here's a good pun I discovered at wordorigins:

Quote:

When Reason's ray shines over all
And puts the saints to rout,
Then Peter's holiness shall pall
And Paul's shall peter out.


Posted By: Hydra What is a pun? - 12/18/06 12:31 PM
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Is an esce chat a logical thing to have here?




Shouldn't a pun play on words by exploiting two or more different possible meanings of a word or phrase to give the sentence a double meaning?

> Is an esce chat a logical thing to have here?

The face value of the sentence makes sense. But the intended quibble on "esce chat a logical" ("eschatological") gives us:

> Is an eschatological thing to have here?

which is a nonsense sentence—and hence the sentence doesn't have a double meaning: It just has one meaning, and three consecutive words which happen to sound similar to another word, but this other word has no meaningful bearing on the initial meaning.

(Or else it does, in which case, you will explain it and I will say "I'm a stupid face" three times fast).

> The owl watching convention was a hoot!

To me, this is an example of a pun proper because both meanings of "hoot" are meaningful (but not grammatical) in the context.

A pun isn't just any instance of homophony or polysemy, is it, or else this sentence would also contain a pun, because "or" also means "gold" in heraldry? What I'm asking is—Doesn't the second meaning of the double meaning of a pun have to have something to do with the first meaning?

By the way, I'm not attacking Ted's puns. I normally enjoy them. I just wanted to raise the question of what actually constitutes a pun.

Your thoughts.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: What is a pun? - 12/18/06 12:33 PM
I didn't think it was a pun, just a play on words.
Posted By: Hydra Re: What is a pun? - 12/18/06 12:39 PM
There's a difference? Rats! I need a new dictionary.

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a play on words a pun.

—Oxford American Dictionary, 2006


Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: What is a pun? - 12/18/06 01:00 PM
a square is a rectangle.
Posted By: BranShea Re: What is a pun? - 12/18/06 01:00 PM
Anyway. As Ted has combined esce + a logical thing , I think it need not be changed into eschatological, whether it be a pun or a wordplay.
It's fine just as it is.

a esce chat a logical ----eschatalogical makes more sense than turning it into a logical dictionary word.
Posted By: pennyless Re: -esce words - 12/18/06 03:47 PM
I guess it's better to be eschatological than scatological. Seriously, I stand in awe of the master punster.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: -esce words - 12/18/06 05:17 PM
> I stand in awe of the master punster.

better that than downwind.
Posted By: Faldage Re: eschatology - 12/18/06 11:20 PM
One of my problems is that the ch in "chat" and the ch in "eschatological" aren't pronounced the same.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: immanentizing the eschaton - 12/18/06 11:32 PM
Gummint conspiracies to one side, from Greek eskhaton 'last'. Some prefer chiliasm.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: What is a pun? - 12/18/06 11:49 PM
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I didn't think it was a pun, just a play on words.




>There's a difference?

generally speaking, a pun is a specific type of word-play.

"To pun is to treat homonyms as synonyms."
-Walter Redfern
Posted By: 251413913519 Re: What is a pun? - 12/19/06 12:39 AM
> generally speaking, a pun is a specific type of word-play.

I guess a bad joke is still a joke.
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: eschatology - 12/19/06 12:44 AM
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One of my problems is that the ch in "chat" and the ch in "eschatological" aren't pronounced the same.




Wouldst care to enumerate some of your other problems?
Posted By: Faldage Re: eschatology - 12/19/06 01:57 AM
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One of my problems is that the ch in "chat" and the ch in "eschatological" aren't pronounced the same.




Wouldst care to enumerate some of your other problems?




Not particularly.
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Chopped liver redux - 12/19/06 01:03 PM
>a square is a rectangle. -- eta

>generally speaking, a pun is a specific type of word-play. -- tsu

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