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not too much commentary from on high; no one hogged the voting, and the hogmaster got the rare skunk. although, in the interest of full disclosure, BranShea originally submitted this def’n:


which I disallowed with the usual peremptoriness; “it's indecently close to the real meaning -- so much so that you must have based it on some cross-linguistic knowledge.” she replied, “That's it, Michael. At least I had a strong, what does AnnaS call it morphomeme (?) feeling about it. You see, we have the word erfgenaam (meaning legal-heir or heir at law) . Arf and name come close to that as you can see. So I was directly set on something with heritage and name.” in the event, she magnanimously voted for Jackie’s effort.

the only other issue I had was with the wording of Faldage’s entry, which he patiently explained to me and which needed no exegesis for eta and olly.

so, kudos to BranShea, Faldage, twosleepy, and Jackie, who each garnered two(2) votes.

a) a name given to a foundling; after the place or region where it was found [submitted by BranShea] voted for by Fauve, The Pook

b) a short vertical support member in a dome joining the pin to the floorboard [Faldage] etaoin, olly

c) a strong smelling plant resin used as a spice in Eastern cookery [The Pook] Owlbow

d) Cockney rhyming slang meaning fame [consuelo] twosleepy

e) an artform in which coffee-stained pieces of paper are glued together to form a pattern [Fr Steve] Faldage

f) a thought that is on the tip of your tongue but eludes definition [olly]

g) the eldest son (from Old West Low Franconian arf, eldest + name, masc. namesake) [ASp] consuelo

h) a temporary name of affection given to an unborn child until a permanent name is decided upon (from French oeuf, egg) [twosleepy] Fr Steve, ASp

i) arf-nà-may an Indian dish consisting of a mixture of rice and lentils with seasonings [Jackie] inselpeter, Branshea

j) jocular: a Registered Kennel Name, as sanctioned by the Registered Kennel Name Program [tsuwm] Jackie

k) exceptional, extraordinary [inselpeter]

l) the love of mountain climbing [Owlbow]

m) one who inherits, an heir (from ON arfr, inheritance + OE numa, taker) [OED online]
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you may now proceed with your post analysis..

HEY! So how come you rejected my original entry, Fido??? I was absolutely certain, because of that, that the Kennel Club entry was the right one!

>Fido

I must have, in my deranged state, thought that my own entry was more.. complete?

(or I remembered those times that you had spoiled my shutout, one)

[helpless laughter e] Ok, ok, I still love you!

The only reason I didn't vote for m) was that I thought the mix of half Old Norse and half Old English in a word sounded phony. Doh!

Well done. I think having no one pick the right definition should be worth five points, since it almost never happens.

Arfnà-may ! This is weird one of a hogwash.
All the time I thought ASps entry was tsuwms fake one and I could not understand why stuwm had chosen a Def. so close to his
official one.
I even had to look twice when they came out for which one of the two was real. ASp was pretty close!

Except ON was one of the more important influences on English.

Yes I know that, but it still sounded unusual.

Old Norse gave us words ranging from weather terms like storm, and emotions like anger, to oft used words such as Wednesday Thursday, & Friday; most personal pronouns beginning with 'th'; and a host of everyday household items and culinary terms like egg and cake. Not to mention oft itself of course! Without ON we wouldn't have a leg to stand on, nor could we skin a cat or let it out of the bag. Old Norse rocks!

Towards the tail-end of the last millennium, I obtained a degree in what would best be described as Germanic Philology (but it was simply called German). I studied Old Norse (Icelandic), Old and Middle English, and Old High German, among others....

After trying to sweat out morphemes to no avail, I turned in for what was sure to be a sleepless night. Lo, arf bubbled up from the memory swamp in the middle of the night! My guess was so close to the correct one that maybe tsuwm shouldn't have thrown it a bone. Yet it just goes to show what a well-rounded liberal arts education will do for you. Y'all want fries with that?

Hey, Pook, I think it's time for you to host a Hogwash.

I'm giving myself .5 of a point for having mentioned M in my original answer and minus 25 points for not having chosen it!

>maybe tsuwm shouldn't have thrown it a bone

shouldn't he? I suppose the question that must be begged is: *at the time* (c. 1000 CE) was the eldest son the (sole) heir?

since it's ron that they aren't at all the same thing today.



hey, what would a round of hogwash be without a bone of contention?!

... which and by the way, depending on whose calendar you go by, the conquest began this week:

From Garrison Keillor's Writer's Almanac:

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This week, we continue to celebrate the anniversary of the Norman invasion of 1066. It was this week in 1066 that William the Conqueror of Normandy first arrived on British soil. The French-speaking Normans eventually defeated Old English-speaking Saxons at the Battle of Hastings on October 14, 1066 — which had a larger and more pronounced effect on the development of the English language than any other event in history. Within the course of a few centuries, English went from being a strictly Germanic language to one infused with a large Latinate vocabulary, which came via French.

The English word literature comes down from the Old French lettre. In the singular, the word in French refers to a member of the alphabet; when it's plural, it's as broad as it is in our phrase "Arts and Letters," encompassing literature and culture.

The pen with which we write may be mightier than the sword, but it was still a sharp object, at least when it first came into English from the Old French penne, "a feather with a sharpened quill." It was dipped in enque, which surely was spilled sometimes. This Old French word for ink came from a Latin word that described the purple fluid meant for a very specific use: the Roman emperor's official stamp of approval, his John Hancock.

Various genres of English literature derive their names from French roots, some of which ultimately derived from Greek. Poet, for example, we got from the Old French word poete, which entered French from Greek via Latin. In Greek, there's poiein, a verb meaning "to create." And in Greek there is poetes, "maker, poet." In Middle English, "poetry" at first referred to creative literature as a whole.

Tragedy in English is from the Old French tragedie via Latin from Greek tragoidia. The reasoning behind the Greek roots (tragos, meaning "goat" and oide "ode, song") is not entirely clear. On that note, mystery, from Old French mistere, was a word first used in English with the sense of "mystic presence" or "hidden religious" symbolism.

Comedy at first referred in English to a genre of stories in which the ending was a happy one. It also came into Middle English through Old French, via Latin from Greek, where it's a compound of the words "revel" and "singer." Comedian first referred to a person who wrote comic plays, and then — in the late 1800s — developed the sense of a person who stands in front of an audience and tells jokes.

Journal is from Old French jurnal, or "belonging to a day." At first, it was a sort of reference book that contained the times of daily prayers. In the 1600s, it acquired the meaning of "diary" and later became associated with newspaper titles and lent its root to journalism.

Never mind Fauve, I'm happy with your second best choice. I give you the 25 and you end up 30 points total. Oops.no! 5 of course, 5! If wealth depended on calculating only, I'd been in the poorhouse by now.

That was a good round. Thanks hogmaster and all players.

I now agree that points don't matter, ("love of mountian climbing", geesh!) , until next time.

Yes, it was a good round; a very good round! I add my thanks, also. I remember first reading "arfname" and thinking, "What?!?". It took me several days of mulling to finally come up with something, so thrown was I by "arf". I couldn't think of anything but dog references, and was considering a desperate humor entry. Then, when I read all the offerings, I was blown away by so many different and creative entries. It's humbling to have struggled so much to come up with one, and then to see so many quality ideas. Congrats to all! :0)

I can't speak for anyone else but I generally spend a few days mulling these words over till me subconcious comes up with something reasonable.

the love of mountain climbing Hey--there was nothing wrong with that! There are a LOT of true definitions that are way stranger than this one.