A friend pointed out an article in another context, which used the word ‘Politization’. Now, the meaning is clear enough, but I would have probably said politicisation. Is this just a transpondial thang, or what does the distinguished panel think?


http://www.wnyc.org/files/onthemedia_toon.html

YRCH! I read that link, too, but missed that vomitous abomination. It's "politicisation" up here, and in the rest of sentient society, I'm sure. The country that gives us people who whinge about "preventative" wants to foist this hellspawned horror on us? Angels and ministers of grace defend us!
(if you're bright, that means you're SOL)

Dear mav: I'm with you in preferring politicization. His word seems a clumsy approximation. And he's wrong about one thing. The Secret Service would have investigated him secrety if it had happened thirty years ago. It's an improvement that they asked for an appointment.
But the cartoonist was obviously correct in saying that he had to be controversial. Nice guys don't win ballgames.

well okay, mav/max; your beef is semi-legit, but even OED has this one spelled ONLY politicization.

here's their first sight of it:
1934 Times Lit. Suppl. 25 Oct. 724/2 The attempted politicization of the German Protestant Church.

>mav/max; your beef is semi-legit, but even OED has this one spelled ONLY politicization.

Pah! The OED? I fart in the general direction of your OED! What the hell would they know? I mean for twenty years or so they had a K1W1 at the helm. That's got to say something about their grasp of English.

ONLY [z]

Interesting that M$ Word recognises both 's' and 'z' forms when set to UK English, but only the ez form when set to Murky.

>Interesting that M$ Word recognises both 's' and 'z' forms when set to UK English, but only the ez form when set to Murky.

My WordPerfect is less tolerant, flagging "z" in its default UK English setting. My main word-processor does the same, and will only accept "s" in UK mode.

Murky

all merkins aside(does one need a gusset for their merkin?), isn't this word from "polity" as opposed to politiCal?

from "polity" as opposed to politiCal?

No, I would not have guessed so (but am happy to be corrected!) Surely it refers to making political, or turning an issue of debate into a political point? Hmmm, got me wondering which are the oldest and youngest forms of this family of words - my WAG is policy is oldest and politicisation must be a green sprig, but.

Mmm, here’s what I got on first checking a couple of online resources:


Main Entry: po•lit•i•cize
Pronunciation: p&-'li-t&-"sIz
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -cized; -ciz•ing
Date: 1846
: to give a political tone or character to <an attempt to politicize the civil service>
- po•lit•i•ci•za•tion -"li-t&-s&-'zA-sh&n/ noun

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=politicization




policy (1) - "way of management," c.1385, from O.Fr. policie, from L. politia "the state," from Gk. politeia "state, administration, government, citizenship," from polites "citizen," from polis "city." Meaning "plan of action, way of management" first recorded c.1406.

politic (adj.) - 1427, from L. politicus "of citizens or the state, civil, civic," from Gk. politikos "of citizens or the state," from polites "citizen," from polis "city," from PIE *p(o)lH- (Skt. pur "city," Lith. pilis "fortress") "enclosed space, often on high ground." Replaced in most senses by political (1551). The verb is 1917, a back-formation from politics. Politician is 1588; politics is 1529, modeled on Aristotle's ta politika "affairs of state," the name of his book on governing and governments, which was in Eng. 1450 as "Polettiques." Politically correct first attested 1970; abbreviation P.C. is from 1986.

politico - 1630, from It. or Sp. politico, noun use of adj. meaning "political," from L. politicus (see politic).

polity - 1538, from L.L. polita "organized government" (see policy).

http://www.etymonline.com/p7etym.htm


So it looks from recorded data that policy was indeed an early bird, with both polity and political arriving a bit later. Subsequent coinages and back formations are clearly much later.

Does OEDipus offer any further inslight, Rex?

...and ministers of grace defend us!

I'm here! I'm here, dear! Working on it.

It's "politicisation" up here, and in the rest of sentient society, I'm sure.
Yes, down here too. You are right as always. However it is a bit of a tongue twister, isn't it?!