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Posted By: dalehileman Gay night revisited - 02/15/07 03:47 PM
night: Good point. I would distinguish between mouse and drive as follows: Mouse is ok because the gadget looks like a mouse. Drive, however, is a poor choice for something with no moving parts

By 2024 any word at all. misspelled or not, will have come to mean anything the writer wishes it to

At present: A drive drive drive drive is the flight of a ball in a baseball game, the outcome of which results in an automobile trip by the all-time home-run champion to a venue in which culturally-acquired concern for the proliferation of a keychain semiconductor memory is sponsored through the profits of a lumber mill whose continued existence depends upon the legalization of dredging a shallow river intended to convey logs downstream for further processing
Posted By: Faldage Drive by definitions - 02/15/07 11:31 PM
A floppy drive was so called because floppy disks were inserted and written to or read from. From the point of view of the user it was a method of storing information for later retrieval. In a hard drive the disks were mounted within the unit. It was still a method of storing information for retrieval later. The original optical drives were used to retrieve information that had been stored on a CD, and later a DVD and also later used to store data on a CD or DVD. A thumb drive (or what ever you do or don't want to call it) is a method of storing information for retrieval later. The fact that nothing is driven is irrelevant; from the point of view of the user it does everything that the previous versions of drives did. You might as well complain about Newsweek being called a magazine because it isn't a building and there are no physical objects stored in it. The defense rests.
Posted By: Curuinor Re: Drive by definitions - 02/16/07 03:16 AM
Doesn't the CD or DVD drive spin the medium? Also, HDD's?
Posted By: Faldage We are all Humpty Dumpty. - 02/16/07 11:16 AM
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Doesn't the CD or DVD drive spin the medium? Also, HDD's?




Yup, so does the floppy drive. That's what bothers dale about the use of the term drive to refer to thumb drives. My point is that the spinning of media is invisible to the ultimate arbiter of language usage and therefore irrelevant to the definition of a drive.
Posted By: Myridon Re: We are all Humpty Dumpty. - 02/16/07 04:02 PM
We've also had "RAM disks" and "RAM drives" of various kinds for 30 years or so. For example, a built-in one on a piece of hardware that holds the boot operating system, or enough operating system for the device to find the network and boot from there. And, even today, if you boot from a Windows rescue diskette, it holds more than a diskette's worth of the command line utilities and decompresses them to a RAM drive with its own drive letter. Wikipedia on Ram Drive
Posted By: dalehileman Re: We are all Humpty Dumpty. - 02/16/07 05:58 PM
I endorse the coinage of a new word to describe a new gadget. "Thumb" is good in "thumb drive" because it's about the size of your thumb and because you write on your thumbnail. Hoever, I would have called it "thumbmory" or "flashrom" or something like that

Although I understand that "flash" comes from "FutureSplash," I like it too because it imparts the idea of quick learning, or in some cases the instant display of an entire page
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: thums up - 02/16/07 06:07 PM
I understand that "flash" comes from "FutureSplash,"

See this article for the non-Dalian etymology.

Also per subjectline.
Posted By: sjmaxq Re: thums up - 02/16/07 07:37 PM
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I understand that "flash" comes from "FutureSplash,"

See this article for the non-Dalian etymology.





"non-Dalian" - now there's a useful coinage, one that can really get a workout on these boards.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: shukriya - 02/16/07 08:33 PM
Ta, max. As a born-again prescriptivist, it occurs to me that I should've written "non-Dalean" as what I did write could be mistaken for "non-Dali-an". OTOH, I'll go with the sentiment rather than the flow of the mo'. Besides it saved me G(64) keystrokes. BTW, what is the macro for that?
Posted By: sjmaxq Re: shukriya - 02/16/07 08:39 PM
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Ta, max. As a born-again prescriptivist, it occurs to me that I should've written "non-Dalean" as what I did write could be mistaken for "non-Dali-an".




"Mistaken" for non-Dali-an? Here was I thinking that there was definitely an element of Salvador's surrealism in some of dale's posts anyway.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: blush - 02/16/07 08:54 PM
"Mistaken" for non-Dali-an?

When I say "mistaken" I mean "driven". Sorry for any conf.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: blush - 02/18/07 04:07 PM
I am flattered that my form of digression should have instituted a new coinage
Posted By: Alex Williams Re: blush - 02/19/07 01:13 PM
'Tis a dubious distinction.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: blush - 02/19/07 03:25 PM
I'll accept any sort of distinction in this hotbed of mutual acrimony
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: palimony - 02/19/07 06:34 PM
I'll accept any sort of distinction in this hotbed of mutual acrimony

ho gar ean sperei anthropos, touto kai therisei.

[Fixed typo.]
Posted By: dalehileman Re: palimony - 02/19/07 06:56 PM
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ho gar ean sterei anthropos, touto kai therisei.




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