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Posted By: Father Steve rebuke - 03/13/06 03:17 AM
In this morning's reading from the Gospel according to Saint Mark, there was a whole lot of rebuking going on. Peter rebukes Jesus for saying something Peter doesn't want to hear. Jesus, in turn, rebukes Peter for being a meathead. Lots of rebuking.

One of the teenagers approached me at the coffee hour and asked what rebuke meant. I gave a sort of half-adequate answer by suggesting that it means "to chew out royally." I guess this must not be a word used much outside of the biblical context, eh?

Looks like it can be both a verb and a noun.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: rebuke - 03/13/06 04:08 AM
The past is always a rebuke to the present; it's bound to be, one way or another: it's your great rebuke. It's a better rebuke than any dream of the future. It's a better rebuke because you can see what some of the costs were, what frail virtues were achieved in the past by frail men. - Robert Penn Warren, at the Fugitives' reunion, May 1956

according to one Shakespearean search tool, the Bard used rebuke twenty-seven(27) times in his plays.

to wit:
CLEOPATRA: Celerity is never more admired
Than by the negligent.

MARK ANTONY: A good rebuke,
Which might have well becomed the best of men,
To taunt at slackness.

rebuke was also a useful word to James Joyce; e.g. in Ulysses:
Having delivered himself of this rebuke he saluted those present on the by and repaired to the door. A murmur of approval arose from all and some were for ejecting the low soaker without more ado...[he goes on at some length]

as could I.
Posted By: themilum Re: rebuke - 03/13/06 10:30 AM
Quote:

[he (James Joyce) goes on at some length]
...as could I.




Forsooth, the tsuwm doth measure his statue against giants and bards.
Lo, such is the stuff that dreams are made on, and our life is rounded with a sleep.


Take a homely man's advice and consider yourself rebuked.
Posted By: maverick Re: rebuke - 03/13/06 11:53 AM


Interesting that so many possible synonyms or partial equals also share so much sound value:
* Reproof
* Reproach
* Reprimand
* Repulse
* Repress

You could also have offered them a prize, Father Steve: “whoever can tell me what’s the connection to a deerly beloved creature in the next 7 days…”
Posted By: inselpeter Re: rebuke - 03/13/06 12:26 PM
What's with the sneaker?
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: rebuke - 03/13/06 12:31 PM
> sneaker

you rang?
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: rebuke - 03/13/06 01:36 PM
Quote:




You could also have offered them a prize, Father Steve: “whoever can tell me what’s the connection to a deerly beloved creature in the next 7 days…”




Seariously?
Posted By: Jackie Re: rebuke - 03/13/06 03:06 PM
he saluted those present on the by and repaired to the door. A murmur of approval arose from all and some were for ejecting the low soaker without more ado What's a by and what's a soaker, please? The water gun sense doesn't seem to fit, here!
Posted By: belMarduk by the by - 03/13/06 03:24 PM
Jackie, the best way I can explain it is "in passing".
Posted By: tsuwm Re: by the by - 03/13/06 03:28 PM
and a soaker is a toper is a drunk.

an old soaker is in the vernacular; but I don't think a super soaker is.
Posted By: Jackie Re: by the by - 03/13/06 03:32 PM
Merci and thank you!
Posted By: maverick Re: sears the day! - 03/13/06 03:35 PM
Quote:

Quote:




You could also have offered them a prize, Father Steve: “whoever can tell me what’s the connection to a deerly beloved creature in the next 7 days…”




Seariously?




oh yeah! and one that I thought might appeal to Father Steve's Auld Countrie leanings...

rebuke 4
obs. Sc. form of roebuck.


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Posted By: Marianna Re: rebuke - 03/14/06 01:20 PM
Quote:



Interesting that so many possible synonyms or partial equals also share so much sound value:
* Reproof
* Reproach
* Reprimand
* Repulse
* Repress





... chide...
Posted By: Zed Re: rebuke - 03/15/06 12:05 AM
"diss"
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: rebuke - 03/15/06 12:14 AM
this is what comes up when I check on rebuke in the OSX dictionary:

THE RIGHT WORD

All of these verbs mean to criticize or express disapproval, but which one you use depends on how upset you are. If you want to go easy on someone, you can admonish or reproach, both of which indicate mild and sometimes kindly disapproval. To admonish is to warn or counsel someone, usually because a duty has been forgotten or might be forgotten in the future (: admonish her about leaving the key in the lock), while reproach also suggests mild criticism aimed at correcting a fault or pattern of misbehavior ( | he was reproved for his lack of attention in class).
If you want to express your disapproval formally or in public, use censure or reprimand. You can censure someone either directly or indirectly (: the judge censured the lawyer for violating courtroom procedures; a newspaper article that censured “deadbeat dads”), while reprimand suggests a direct confrontation (| reprimanded by his parole officer for leaving town without reporting his whereabouts). If you're irritated enough to want to express your disapproval quite harshly and at some length, you can scold (: to scold a child for jaywalking). Rebuke is the harshest word of this group, meaning to criticize sharply or sternly, often in the midst of some action (: rebuke a carpenter for walking across an icy roof).
Posted By: Zed Re: rebuke - 03/15/06 12:25 AM
Waaaay back we had a discussion about denotative vs connotative meaning. There are many fine shadings of meaning that are not usually defined. As well as degree of harshness Censure carries a sense of formality, Reproach implies some hint of sadness/hurt feelings on the part of the reproacher, Scold implies an adult/child relationship.
Makes me wonder how much I miss when attempting to operate in other languages.
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