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Posted By: Marianna ea - 01/12/06 02:19 PM
I'm working on some recipes with one of my groups, and we've stumbled on a problem. The ingredients list contains the following:

600 ea Emu fillets
3 ea cloves of garlic
750 ea (3 cups) good beef stock
80 ea (1/3 cup) vinegar
150 ea riberries

as well as some other ingredients which are listed in the normal way (1 tb coriander, 2 ts cardamom pods).

About that ea : I'd always understood this meant "each", but I wonder if it's being used like this in this recipe. After all, what can it mean to say "80 each vinegar"? Or "150 each riberries"?

What would y'all understand here?
Thanks!
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: ea - 01/12/06 02:33 PM
Someone has mixed bananas and oranges here;they are not even the same shape.

Try:

600 grams Emu fillets
3 ea cloves of garlic
750 ml (3 cups) good beef stock
80 ml (1/3 cup) vinegar
150 grams riberries

What the heck is a riberry? Oh, it's a Small leafed lillypilly. Why didn't you say so?

I'd probably subsitute the royal wea for the emu, though.
Posted By: inselpeter Re: ea - 01/12/06 02:34 PM
it is a measure of volume equivalent to 1/750 of three cups and 1/80 of 1/3 cup. One cup is 240 EAs, and three cups, again, is 720 EAs. 150 libraries are equivalent can be put into a little more than 2/3 of a cup.

I hope that helps.
Posted By: Jackie Re: ea - 01/12/06 03:17 PM
And now, a reply that might actually be helpful, possibly [raspberries to you two guys]: I think you were right, Marianna, and that the recipe was probably copied wrong. Look at this one, for ex.:
Title: Escabeche De Gallina (Marinated Chicken)
Categories: Chile, Meat dish
Yield: 4 Servings

1 c Celery leaves
1/3 c Vinegar, wine
2 ea Parsley sprigs
1 t Salt
2 ea Cloves, whole
1 c Water, hot
1/4 t Thyme, dried
2 ea Onions - cut in rings
1/3 c Olive oil
1 ea Carrot - sliced
2 1/2 lb Chicken pieces
1 ea Leek - sliced
1 c Wine, white, dry
1 ea Lemon - cut in 8 wedges


This one has ea where I'd expect to see it, though it strikes me as odd to put "each" when you only need one of an item. Perhaps it's one of the cultural differences in recipe-writing?

Edit: but maybe it was a pretend recipe. You'd need a LOT more than 3 and 1/3 cups of liquid to go with 600 filets of anything.
Posted By: inselpeter Re: ea - 01/12/06 03:37 PM
I think they probably meant to write "grams"
Posted By: Myridon Why cooks and chemists can't communicate... - 01/12/06 03:44 PM
Quote:

Edit: but maybe it was a pretend recipe. You'd need a LOT more than 3 and 1/3 cups of liquid to go with 600 filets of anything.




(750 each of 3 cups = 2250 cups) + (80 each of 1/3 cup = 26 2/3 cups)= 2276 2/3 cups = plenty of liquid, but the 3 cloves of garlic is kind of pointless

Is a sprig of parsley a whole stalk or a few leaves that you pinch off to decorate a plate? What if my carrot/lemon is 3 times bigger than your carrot/lemon?
[fainting-e]

Posted By: Marianna Re: ea - 01/12/06 04:00 PM
Seriously, now... thank you, Jackie and everyone else. The recipe seems to be a real one from Australia, and there are indeed a couple more ingredients. Find it here.

I realise that for one thing, the actual measurement units are missing, as you'd expect the recipe to specify that "600" are 600 grams of whatever, and you'd expect a volume unit to accompany the liquids and perhaps some of the other ingredients (the "libraries" , for instance, might be measured in volume or in weight).

But "ea" is weird. I do agree it may be a mistake, or maybe there is a sort of template that puts this into the recipes that come into this website when other information (such as measurement units) is missing. In any case, it seems obvious that you cannot use "ea" to talk about 1 sprig of parsley or a jar of stock that you're pouring into your pot.

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: ea - 01/12/06 04:20 PM
I wonder if the recipe wasn't copied from another site (maybe more than once), wasn't really proofed, and somewhere the letters got wigged out, going from Unicode to ISO Latin, etc.
Posted By: wsieber Re: ea - 01/12/06 07:41 PM
I also think there must have been some errors in editing. At the site, it says Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.04 - That looks like some computer program, which probably supplies the units. And the recipe was submitted in 1994..
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but the 3 cloves of garlic is kind of pointless





The correct number of cloves of garlic for any recipe is 2^n+1 cloves, where n=the number of people eating. This means you use two cloves of garlic if nobody is eating, three for one person, five for two people, nine for three people, seventeen for four people, etc.
how many does that convert to if Dracula is eating?
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how many does that convert to if Dracula is eating?




Using the formula, it would have to be five. Dracula always dines with a guest; the recipe calls for the guest to be well-drained, of course.

Said the undersigned in a jugular vein.
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: ea - 01/12/06 09:59 PM
Quote:

The recipe seems to be a real one from Australia...








Well, that explains a lot.
Posted By: Father Steve Re: ea - 01/13/06 02:26 AM
Here is a particularly interesting website for those who approach cooking as an engineering problem to be solved.

The Interesting Website
Posted By: inselpeter Re: ea - 01/13/06 07:59 AM
Quote:

Here is a particularly interesting website for those who approach cooking as an engineering problem to be solved.

The Interesting Website




From which, this surprising comment:

"The balance in all other disciplines is considered separate from a scale, but in cooking we lump the two together."
Posted By: Faldage Re: ea - 01/13/06 10:23 AM
Cooking is half art, half science and half engineering. There are, of course, those who will ignore two of those halves and claim their half is all that is needed. Some of these people still make magnificent cooks so should be neither ignored nor avoided.
Posted By: inselpeter Re: ea - 01/13/06 12:11 PM
Nothing wrong with having two better halves, I always hope.
Posted By: Zed Re: ea - 01/14/06 12:12 AM
Nothing wrong with having two better halves, I always hope.
polygamy??
Posted By: maverick Re: ea - 01/14/06 12:44 AM
Recipe for Polygamy Pie

Take two tender chickies (not too old fowl) and hang around them for a few days until tender
Warm them near the fire, giving both full a full turn
Add some red wine, shallots, more red wine and seasoning to taste
Choose a suitable dish
Cover the birds with a blanket
Ensure the breast is kept moist
Avoid extreme crustiness
Bake until done
Repeatedly
Posted By: TEd Remington Polygamy pie - 01/14/06 08:53 AM
Reminds me of the story about Father McGillicutty, who was sitting in the confessional box one day, waiting for business. He heard the door open and someone came in and sat down on the other side. Then a voice spoke.

"Father, this morning Rabinowitz's twin daughters came up to my apartment, said they wanted me, and we had monkey sex for nine hours. And they said when they left they were so exhausted they would have to come back tomorrow for more!"

The good Father paused and said to himself, "I know that voice." So he slid open the screen and sure enough, there was 77-year old Itzach Hershkowitz sitting there. "Mr. Hershkowitz, you're Jewish," he admonished, "Why are you coming in here tellling me this."

The old fellow cackled. "Hee hee. I'm telling EVERYONE!"
Posted By: musick Re: Polygamy pie - 01/14/06 06:14 PM




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