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#176154 - 04/21/08 05:49 PM Begging the question of logical fallacies
latishya Offline
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I have read about some of the logical fallacies, but this video makes them easier to understand and more fun. I still don't know what 'begging the question' means though.
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#176155 - 04/21/08 06:41 PM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: latishya]
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heh.

-joe (that's begging the question) friday

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#176156 - 04/21/08 07:28 PM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: latishya]
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Sorry!

Edited by twosleepy (04/21/08 07:46 PM)
Edit Reason: didn't help....

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#176157 - 04/21/08 07:31 PM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: twosleepy]
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 Originally Posted By: twosleepy


Does this help, Latishya?


Not much.

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#176167 - 04/21/08 09:08 PM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: latishya]
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The logical fallacy, also known as petitio principii, (for which 'begging the question is a lousy translation IMNSHO), is the fallacy of assuming your conclusion in one of the premises.
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#176175 - 04/21/08 10:56 PM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: Faldage]
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 Originally Posted By: Faldage
The logical fallacy, also known as petitio principii, (for which 'begging the question is a lousy translation IMNSHO), is the fallacy of assuming your conclusion in one of the premises.


Now THAT was crystalline clear. Thank you.

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#176177 - 04/21/08 11:19 PM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: latishya]
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beg [v]
6. To take for granted without warrant; esp. in to beg the question: to take for granted the matter in dispute, to assume without proof; b) to evade or sidestep

-joe (just another sense of beg) friday

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#176178 - 04/21/08 11:23 PM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: tsuwm]
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 Originally Posted By: tsuwm
beg [v]
to take for granted the matter in dispute, to assume without proof;

-joe (just another sense of beg) friday


Even simpler, which is even better. Thanking you too I am.

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#176182 - 04/22/08 02:55 AM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: Faldage]
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Edited by The Pook (04/22/08 09:49 AM)

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#176198 - 04/22/08 06:54 AM Re: Begging the question of logical fallacies [Re: The Pook]
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Neither Stephen nor I meant to assert anything about the existence of any god nor about the prevalence of any specific argument. That particular example was merely offered as an example of the fallacy in question. If you want to discuss the rationality of any argument about the existence of God I would suggest Internet Infidels.
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