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Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Topic Options #187663 - 11/04/09 04:58 PM Re: aknestis [Re: Barney] zmjezhd Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 2476 Loc: R'lyeh I was not saying that the a- was the privative prefix, although it makes no less sense than the combing prefix. I was simply saying, along with others, that is looks probable that knēstis and aknēstis are related. Here's what Chatraine has to say: Quote: Le mot à rapprocher de κνηστις «râpe à fromage», cf. sous -κναιω, et on admet que les deux termes sont identiques, cf. Bechtel, Gl. 1, 72, Wackernagel, Gl. 2, 1, Bechtel Lexilogus 27, , enfin Leumann, Hom. Wörter 49: ακνηστις serait né d'une coupure fautive, chez Hom., de κατα ακνηστιν en κατ' ακνηστιν. Toutefois il n'est pas absolument impossible que ακνηστις ait été créé dès la langue hom. pour distinguer les deux mots, l'alpha pouvant être une prothèse. I'll see if I can chase down the references cited. Top #187665 - 11/04/09 06:20 PM Re: ACNESTIS [Re: LukeJavan8] BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 3763 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8 Thanks Bran; I may never grate cheese again. If in the days before prefixes we skated on bones, who knows what we grated our stuff on. ( you can buy it already grated ) Top #187666 - 11/04/09 09:11 PM Re: ACNESTIS [Re: Barney] Barney stranger Registered: 11/03/09 Posts: 3 a prothetic vowel, if so, that's brilliant. Top #187668 - 11/05/09 05:44 AM Re: ACNESTIS [Re: Barney] BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 3763 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague Wow! why did it not occur to me before? About this grate and spine thing: our word for spine is ruggegraat, i.e. rug = back; graat = bone. The bones of fishes are called graten. Etymology unfindable. (disastrous to have supposedly bright ideas at the point of falling asleep) Edited by BranShea (11/05/09 08:38 PM) Edit Reason: smile Top #187704 - 11/09/09 10:18 PM Re: ACNESTIS [Re: BranShea] Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 10392 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky I had to look this one up: pro·thet·ic : the addition of a sound to the beginning of a word (as in Old French estat—whence English estate—from Latin status) (M-W on-line) Cool! Branny! Here, a rugrat is a small child! Top #187706 - 11/10/09 05:57 AM Re: ACNESTIS [Re: Jackie] BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 3763 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague Ha! That's cool too. Today's rugrats hopefully will be the backbone of tomorrow's society. ;-) Top #187707 - 11/10/09 08:25 AM Re: ACNESTIS [Re: BranShea] zmjezhd Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 2476 Loc: R'lyeh ruggegraat Interesting word. German has Rückgrat 'backbone, spine, chine'; Grat 'ridge, spine, crest'; Gebirgsgrat 'mountain ridge'; Fischgräte, Gräte 'fish bones. Top Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Previous Topic Index Next Topic Preview Hop to: General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Print Topic Switch to Threaded Mode View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts Forum Stats 7256 Members 16 Forums 12812 Topics 189740 Posts Max Online: 853 @ 10/23/07 11:39 AM Who's Online 1 registered (zmjezhd), 9 Guests and 15 Spiders online. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Newest Members Alan, jincy crow, aml, Goodspeaker, W1343 7256 Registered Users Top Posters wwh 13858 Faldage 12531 Jackie 10392 tsuwm 9577 Buffalo Shrdlu 6690 AnnaStrophic 6489 Wordwind 6296 of troy 5400 maverick 4683 WhitmanO'Neill 4189 March Su M Tu W Th F Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31

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