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#185606 - 07/02/09 03:20 AM Rhubarb
stranger
Registered: 07/02/09
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Usually background extras are required to appear more or less animated during the shooting of a scene, but remain as quiet as possible so that the principal actors’ dialogue may be clearly recorded.
For various reasons a scene may be shot “MOS” (“mit out sound”--a legacy of one of those European directors who came to Hollywood in the Golden Age) as well, and the whole track including Walla has to be built from scratch.
“Walla” is usually recorded later in a sound studio as part of post production and generated by a “loop group” of actors, who very often have played no previous part in the film and usually require some direction to acquaint them with the nature of the scene. It’s common, too, to add further information from unspecified extras by recording “wild lines” which have written content but vaguely defined speakers.
The film industry has a rich jargon, it’s not just about “best boys”.
Ross
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#185642 - 07/02/09 10:30 PM
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/15/00
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Olly! Did you see this? I have the feeling you and Ross have something in common!
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#185645 - 07/02/09 11:17 PM
addict
Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 603
Loc: Auckland, New Zealand
“Walla” is usually recorded later in a sound studio as part of post production and generated by a “loop group” of actors
Kia ora maelduin.
There were other words that these 'extras' employed as well such as 'Natter natter' or Blah blah blah! When said in chorus its generally undecipherable Natter.
It is quite common nowadays to utilise digital effects libraries to build a soundtrack. Canned laughter is similar in the sense that there is quite a range of laughter types from boisterous to, haha, I got it chuckles. I don't know about your part of the world but 'Extras' down here are on occasion referred to as 'Warm Props'
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#185646 - 07/02/09 11:36 PM
stranger
Registered: 07/02/09
Posts: 2
Tenakoe Ollie
One of the first jobs I ever had in a cutting room was to drop the appropriate 2, 4, 6, boundary or out of the ground prerecorded applause into a track against the 2, 4 runs etc marked on the cut film by the editor. This was taken to a recording studio and commentary added. This was before videotape. It was an advance on the really early ABC cricket broadcasts where the commentator listened to the badly transmitted commentary from England and repeated it, hitting the desk with a pencil to approximate ball and bat.
Re loop groups: it was not uncommon for the dialogue editor to be left to direct walla. In NZ the group was usually assembled from office staff and crew, but it was invaluable to have at least one experienced actor to drag any performance out of the non-actors. My experience with US extras recordings is that lower ranked actors specialise in this job; a loop group captain is contracted, given a profile of male/female/ages and he or she gets the group together and virtually directs the session.
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#185648 - 07/03/09 02:02 AM
addict
Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 603
Loc: Auckland, New Zealand
There're still a couple of chinagraph pencils lying around here somewhere.
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#185659 - 07/03/09 09:43 AM
Carpal Tunnel
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#185660 - 07/03/09 12:28 PM
old hand
Registered: 06/23/08
Posts: 816
Loc: Land of Flat River
like the edible kind. Sometimes someone will pick a stalk
and try to eat it. It may be edible, who knows?, but it
sure does not taste good.
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#185662 - 07/03/09 01:20 PM
Carpal Tunnel
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#185664 - 07/03/09 01:53 PM
Carpal Tunnel
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like the edible kind. Sometimes someone will pick a stalk
and try to eat it. It may be edible, who knows?, but it
sure does not taste good.
Some folks add a bunch of sweetener of one sort or another. If you haven't prepared the rhubarb yourself you might not be aware of this fact. Whatever you do, don't eat the leaves.
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#185665 - 07/03/09 02:07 PM
Carpal Tunnel
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Loc: Netherlands, the Hague
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