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#170646 - 10/16/07 07:18 AM flannel merchant?
linguophile Offline
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I heard this term on a show on BBC America & I had to wonder not only about the meaning but about the derivation... Its obviously a derogatory term, but what specifically does it mean & where does it come from?

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#170649 - 10/16/07 11:38 AM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: linguophile]
dalehileman Offline
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Apparently it's mostly spelled with an "a" and I doubt if it has a special etymology

http://www.bartleby.com/61/59/L0185925.html
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#170650 - 10/16/07 11:43 AM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: dalehileman]
Buffalo Shrdlu Online   shocked
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dale, I think linguo is hoping to understand the phrase "flannel merchant" not linguaphile.

welcome, linguo! and I've never heard the phrase flannel merchant.

as you say, it is a British usage, and hopefully, one of us from those parts will inform us!


Edited by etaoin (10/16/07 12:14 PM)

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#170652 - 10/16/07 12:07 PM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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I've never heard the expression. All I can contribute is that "flannel" means washcloth in the UK...

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#170653 - 10/16/07 12:10 PM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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and note that linguo spells his username with an o - probly because linguaphile is reserved or summat.

-ron o.

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#170654 - 10/16/07 12:32 PM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: tsuwm]
Buffalo Shrdlu Online   shocked
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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
and note that linguo spells his username with an o - probly because linguaphile is reserved or summat.

-ron o.


o.O

oops.

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#170655 - 10/16/07 12:37 PM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: tsuwm]
BranShea Offline
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From about those parts;
From Collins humongous Eng. Dictionary, specially published for their 175 years birthday.

flannel:
1. a soft light woolen fabric

There's 8 definitions in total.

8. Brit. informal:verb; to talk evasively to; flatter in order to mislead


The same dictionary gives for merchant:
6 definitions of which
5. derogatary: a person dealing or involved in something undesirable: a gossip merchant

Maybe the two are also used combined?

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#170664 - 10/16/07 08:53 PM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: BranShea]
Hydra Offline
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A flannel merchant is a sycophant.

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#170669 - 10/17/07 07:39 AM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: Hydra]
Buffalo Shrdlu Online   shocked
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Originally Posted By: Hydra
A flannel merchant is a sycophant.


but why?

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#170671 - 10/17/07 08:03 AM Re: flannel merchant? [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
Faldage Offline
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I think the question has boiled down to "why did 'flannel' come to mean to talk evasively to; flatter in order to mislead."

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