#106394 - 06/25/03 03:33 AM
Re: kibosh
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Pooh-Bah
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I've always heard it as 'kyebosh'. Dr Bill's link to Quinion has some interesting history and speculation. Apparently the word was first used here in London and appears in a work by Dickens.
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#106395 - 05/28/04 10:35 AM
Re: kibosh
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Carpal Tunnel
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M-W puts the kibosh on both the Yiddish and Irish notions of derivation here: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/mwwod.pl
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#106397 - 07/16/05 05:38 PM
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Carpal Tunnel
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> posting down here
At least the air's cleaner with no obvious iggrification ~ there's no-one putting the kibosh on every thread in sight!
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#106398 - 07/16/05 06:17 PM
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#106400 - 07/22/05 11:56 AM
Re: kibosh
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journeyman
Registered: 12/09/02
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Loc: Ohio
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Yeah, kinda nice down here below the fold...
I've heard both kah-BOSH and KYE-bosh. Grew up and still live in Ohio.
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#106401 - 08/15/05 05:12 PM
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New York City here, as least formative-years-wise. (Upper Bronx, at that.) Definitely KYE-bosh.
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#167178 - 03/24/07 11:43 PM
Re: kibosh
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stranger
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I'm new at this, but I remember seeing an explanation of the origin of 'kibosh' a long time ago, I don't remember where, but it seemed at the time to be a fairly respectable source. Their explanation was that, way back when, in a law court, if the judge was about to pronounce a sentence of death, he ceremonially laid a square of black linen over his wig before he spoke. This was in the British Isles, could have been Ireland, Scotland, Wales, or England itself. That square of black linen was called the 'kibosh' or death cap.
Regards, Pearliemay
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#167181 - 03/25/07 06:16 AM
Re: kibosh
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Hi there!
On former page the links give already the informtion you asked for. Al anwers give no full clearity.
kibosh
1836, kye-bosk, in slang phrase put the kibosh on, of unknown origin, despite intense speculation. Looks Yiddish, but origin in early 19c. English slang seems to argue against this. One candidate is Ir. caip bháis, caipín báis "cap of death," sometimes said to be the black cap a judge would don when pronouncing a death sentence, but in other sources identified as a gruesome method of execution "employed by Brit. forces against 1798 insurgents" [Bernard Share, "Slanguage, A Dictionary of Irish Slang"]. Or it may somehow be connected with Turkish bosh (see bosh).
(from Online Ethymology Dictionary.)Don't ask me what Meta -words mean.
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#183747 - 03/20/09 05:42 PM
Zubenelgenubi
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old hand
Registered: 06/23/08
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Hi there! On former page the links give already the informtion you asked for. Al anwers give no full clearity. kibosh 1836, kye-bosk, in slang phrase put the kibosh on, of unknown origin, despite intense speculation. Looks Yiddish, but origin in early 19c. English slang seems to argue against this. One candidate is Ir. caip bháis, caipín báis "cap of death," sometimes said to be the black cap a judge would don when pronouncing a death sentence, but in other sources identified as a gruesome method of execution "employed by Brit. forces against 1798 insurgents" [Bernard Share, "Slanguage, A Dictionary of Irish Slang"]. Or it may somehow be connected with Turkish bosh (see bosh). (from Online Ethymology Dictionary.) Don't ask me what Meta -words mean. I'm not sure what a 'meta word' is either, but ZUBENELGENUBI, might be one. Accents on the ben and nu syllables: it is a star in the constellation Libra.
Edited by LukeJavan8 (03/20/09 05:43 PM)
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#183764 - 03/21/09 09:17 AM
Re: Zubenelgenubi
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Carpal Tunnel
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There is only one online dictionary entry, Google gives a lot. Main Entry: meta-word Part of Speech: n Definition: a word describing another word; by extension, a word in a computer program that means something other than its literal meaning, esp. that is part of the programming language Webster's New Millennium™ Dictionary of English, Preview Edition (v 0.9.7) Copyright © 2003-2009 Dictionary.com, LLC Cite This Source Zubenelgenubi Nice star
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#183770 - 03/21/09 10:11 AM
Re: Zubenelgenubi
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Pooh-Bah
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ZUBENELGENUBIInteresting word. It's from Arabic, as are many astronomical terms. There are two other stars in Libra that begin with zuben (< Arabic al-zuban 'the claw'). - alpha Librae, Zubenelgenubi 'southern claw' (< al-zuban al-janubiyy)
- beta Librae, Zubeneschamali 'northern claw' (< al-zuban al-shamaliyyah)
- gamma Librae, Zubenelakrab 'scorpion's claw' (< al-zuban al-aqrab)
[Addendum: Arabic janub 'south' < janaba 'to turn aside' is cognate with Hebrew ganebh 'to steal' and Yiddish ganef 'thief' ( link)]
Edited by zmjezhd (03/21/09 10:22 AM)
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#183783 - 03/21/09 01:58 PM
Re: Zubenelgenubi
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Carpal Tunnel
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Loc: Vermont
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You'll never be the true astronomer neither. Sigh.
But you can sing. what? Star Wars ain't true astronomy? but thanks! :¬ )
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#183815 - 03/22/09 01:41 PM
Re: Zubenelgenubi
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If you click 'stars' in that site you can see that half of Arabia is in the sky. Wonderful site . stars Thanks for the site Bran, I love it.
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